PVE is the bomb. I'd much rather raid a dungeon than put up with obnoxious PVP tactics.
Define obnoxious pvp tactics??? This honestly boggles me... How is beating a scripted boss fun? It's built to be beat, isn't the point of games to sometimes lose?
For those wondering - I play both horde and alliance, horde on illidan/cho'gall/blackrock/twisting nether and alliance on KT, Tich, Darkspear.
It's funny because the people who often define pve as scripted fights you can't lose have never stepped foot in a real competitive raiding atmosphere. Sure you can go farm past tier instances all you want but thats like rolling Rmp in 3s and facerolling.
<V A N Q U I S H> wasn't a real raiding environment? Blood legion wasn't a real raiding environment? I didn't go hunting "server first" those where under my belt from the start- I was hunting WORLD first. RMP is not faceroll either, at least when I played it to glad it actually required some communication/a brain. Wrath was a joke, none of the fights where overly "challenging", cata even more-so.It's funny because the people who often define pve as scripted fights you can't lose have never stepped foot in a real competitive raiding atmosphere. Sure you can go farm past tier instances all you want but thats like rolling Rmp in 3s and facerolling.
We spent the better part our wotlk days hunting down server first for hard mode achievements. Start with something fresh and don't run pushover casual raids. It's a matter of comparing them within their respective difficulty level. Sort of like farming points at 1500 compared to 2k+.
Also horde.
I've done both in pretty intense dosages. Pve offers a social experience that you'd expect from an MMO. Pvp to me is all about rolling flavor of the month classes.
So your basing your view of PvP around the idea of random BGs, in which - no serious/good pvper takes seriously at all? Rated bgs/competitive arena is nothing like this.. I think the last time I took a random BG seriously- I walked out going 46-0 wearing my wrathful set at 85 - no I didn't que with anyone else either.Yeah... I've spent HOURS wiping on "scripted bosses" the first day they were released while we all had fun laughing and learning the fight.
Obnoxious PVP tactics.... Um how about two Rogues at the top of the bracket camping the rez point and killing everyone at the bottom of the racket instead of actually CAPTURING THE FLAG which is the objective of the BG. That's not my idea of fun.
I'd rather wipe on bosses and then feel the thrill as our TEAM finally kills the sucker and humps its lifeless corpse. Yep... that's the life!
What fights so far require perfect play? Even mimiron 25 hardmode didn't require perfect play, neither did yogg 0 light, which was probably the most difficult fight of wrath, people could screw up, and still come out ahead.That is exactly it. I WAY prefer PvE over PvP. I only PvP when I'm bored... and usually win (not always, as per above but win > lose).
PvE might be scripted, but the hard modes and difficult achievements are scripted for 10 or 25 people to play PERFECTLY, no mistakes allowed. 1 mistake and it's a wipe. Lacking gear? Tank not popping his CD exactly when it should be popped? It's a wipe. To be able to defeat that and with a group of friends is satisfying and is a great way to spend an evening with a beer and a great way to relax. I'm fairly good at both and I very much prefer PvE over PvP.
As far Cataclysm, I really like it. It's one of my favorite expansions right behind BC. I really enjoy the level of difficulty with cata that wasn't there with Wrath. I quit half way through Wrath because the content was too easy, we had everything on clear on a continuous basis and had nothing to look forward to for long stretches of time. Most of wrath was: tank run in, gather everything up, then AoE it all down... over and over, it got old, so I quit. I was very thankful for the level of difficulty they added into Cata. I hope the next expansion will be as difficult, if not more so.
I play both Alliance AND horde. I raided BC as horde and alliance both, quit Wrath but was raiding alliance and now I'm raiding Cata on alliance but may do so on horde too.
For whoever said there's no release date for D3 - it's supposed to be this November. Beta is out right now.
Ulduar was nothing next to sunwell. Muru will always in my eyes- be probably the hardest fight in the game.Although I agree with wrath being mind numbingly easy pve wise you can't discard Ulduar into the same category. Still the best raid to date. Despite all the idiotic nerfs.
I remember sitting in general chat doing mimiron hardmodes listening to people wipe on the XT trash over and over. Now that was funny to listen to.That IS True, Ulduar at the beginning was significantly difficult but they nerfed it so fast and hard (sort of what they just did with Firelands) that I didn't get the full enjoyment of it.
Thank God that I actually got all the way thru Firelands and some heroic mode too before the nerf bat came down yesterday.
My husband and I used to be really into WoW. But we finally got fed up with the bull crap and trying to find a decent raid guild that wasn't just a bunch of morons or had no concept of fun. We enjoyed Lich King, but Cata just became meh.
My main was an Enhance (during LK - Ele for Cata) Shaman on Alliance. We played on Sen'jin. My secondary main is a DW Frost DK that I adore playing. I do miss the game, I just wish I didn't have to put up with other people to raid.
We went back to Guild Wars and are awaiting Guild Wars 2 anxiously. I'm an avid Star Wars fan, but I have mixed feelings about TOR. My biggest fear is that it'll be another crappy MMORPG like Galaxies. *shudder* That game was the suck in a BIG way!
Define obnoxious pvp tactics??? This honestly boggles me... How is beating a scripted boss fun? It's built to be beat, isn't the point of games to sometimes lose?
For those wondering - I play both horde and alliance, horde on illidan/cho'gall/blackrock/twisting nether and alliance on KT, Tich, Darkspear.