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crazyDave said:
"all the dimensions you can go forwards or backwards in except time
its obvious Allah had to make it that way because nature would have obviously made it go both ways like the animals"
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I think you just proved that homosexuality is natural, I'll agree with that.

As far as time, perhaps I do not think that time is a dimension. Perhaps I do not believe time exists. Perhaps I belive it is a human created concept.

Or, maybe I belive that it is possible to move forwards and backwards in time, we just don't have the ability to do it. Sharks cannot swim backwards, so from their perspective they also cannot move backward in the dimension of space.
 
Sadly I must go to sleep now.

But I'll just say this.... I don't think anyone who believes in God or Allah needs proof that he exists. Faith is all they need.

Good night!
 
ZoologyGirl said:
I think you just proved that homosexuality is natural, I'll agree with that.

As far as time, perhaps I do not think that time is a dimension. Perhaps I do not believe time exists. Perhaps I belive it is a human created concept.

Or, maybe I belive that it is possible to move forwards and backwards in time, we just don't have the ability to do it. Sharks cannot swim backwards, so from their perspective they also cannot move backward in the dimension of space.
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just because u do not believe something does not exist does not make it true

time does exist and is real otherwise all events that ever happened would be happening at the same time and they are not and entropy would not be increase

forward and backwards was not meant to be used literal i meant it as moving along the axis

and sharks can move along the axises by turning around

not to mention that the time dimension is not a spatial dimension but it is temporal and by the definition it is one way and must be true as said by the laws of thermodynamics
 
"time" is a human perception. It is *always* the present. It is never the future, and it is never the past. There is simply movement.

Oh, and you're wrong about me being wrong because saying just "ur wrong" does not prove anything.

I'm still waiting for my PHYSICAL proof of a deity. If Allah/God/Zues/Buddha/Amaterasu/ANY deity is real, they need to appear in front of me and offer me a plate of fudge brownies. Until then, all you can do is try to use convulated, fallible illogic to try and muddle the waters so much that people give up out of frustration.

just because u do not believe something does not exist does not make it true
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And in turn, just because you DO believe something exists does not make it true. It's a two-way street.
 
Shiari said:
"time" is a human perception. It is *always* the present. It is never the future, and it is never the past. There is simply movement.

Oh, and you're wrong about me being wrong because saying just "ur wrong" does not prove anything.

I'm still waiting for my PHYSICAL proof of a deity. If Allah/God/Zues/Buddha/Amaterasu/ANY deity is real, they need to appear in front of me and offer me a plate of fudge brownies. Until then, all you can do is try to use convulated, fallible illogic to try and muddle the waters so much that people give up out of frustration.



And in turn, just because you DO believe something exists does not make it true. It's a two-way street.
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time is only perceived only in present by fools who do not understand time once u understand it u will see the world in a entirely different way

also y would something that created u have to prove himself to u and server u

that is just a stupid way to try and say i am wrong

physical proof is not needed to prove things exist

gravity exists and there is no physical proof of what it is but u can see the effects of it just like Allah

so in turn u are trying "to use convulated, fallible illogic to try and muddle the waters so much that people give up out of frustration."
 
Urban_M86 said:
we all do but have we seen our brain, touch it, smell it, wight it, etc... no we assume it is there so have we have faith we have a brain or we know so. just my thoughts
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Well we know we have a brain and we can see it in an MRI, X-Ray, someone else spilled on the pavement, in am operating room. I do not assume I have a brian or take it on faith. I know from scientific proof I have a brain and so may you.
So your argument falls flat. While some believe God on faith, I believe in faith, the faith to love, to care for others, the faith that the sun will rise tomorrow and the faith that for some the sum will not rise; what I don't do is confuse faith with God. I also don't confuse morality with God.
 
I'm glad you have faith, Crazy Dave, but you cannot prove to me that God exists with a mathematical formula. Any more than I would presume to prove to you that there is no god through telling you horror stories of senseless death and suffering from my workplace.
Do you own corn snakes?
 
diamondlil said:
I'm glad you have faith, Crazy Dave, but you cannot prove to me that God exists with a mathematical formula. Any more than I would presume to prove to you that there is no god through telling you horror stories of senseless death and suffering from my workplace.
Do you own corn snakes?
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i did not just use a formula to prove it

i gave other proof

and just because u think it is senseless does not mean it is

and yes i own some corn snakes
 
crazyDave said:
and yes i own some corn snakes
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good. then talk about those. Stop this proof nonsense, you wont make friends by trying to say you can 'prove' or 'disprove' peoples basic beliefs. Maybe your just bad at making new friends, but this is not the way to do it. Your not going to change anyones mind with that mathematical drivel you were posting earlier, and I am personally QUITE offended that you presume to think that you know so much more than I do about what I should have faith in!!!!!!! I'd love to say what I'm really thinking about you, but I can't because I like this forum and don't want to get banned!!! not only do you presume to be smarter than anyone else on the planet, "u do it lyke this, so no1 wood ever rlly take u srusly 2 strt wth"
To answer your original question: NO!!! there is nowhere on this forum it is appropriate to spout stupid made up math and call it proof of your concept of 'God'. If that is the sort of thing welcome here, I was mistaken with my assessment of this place.
so BLOCK YOU JERK!!

((sorry everyone else. This made me VERY angry. Please know outbursts like this are not something I make a habit of. I think in the future I will bow out of religious discussion.))
 
LOL, I saw this thread yesterday when no one had replyed, and now look at it...6 pages of everyone ripping this guys math apart. Sorry crazyDave, I knew when you started this that it was a loosing battle. I personally believe in God and have witnessed many miracles that have no scientific explanation. And, unfortunately many people believe only what they can see, I see God every morning when the sun rises over the mountains, because I don't think that anything as beautiful could happen on accident. Most people don't believe that way anymore, its just what I believe and a few others I know.
Though I don't know if you started this thread as a way to get people riled up or you seriously thought you could prove Gods existence with mathematical equations that directly attack some of those who you are trying to prove are wrong. There are other ways to try and prove what you believe.
 
Well then wade... I must be a whacko...lol. But at least I'm not one trying to push my beliefs on anyone else... :)
 
Whacko???

wade said:
Aaron, when people believe in things they can't see, the are called whackos.
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I certainly wouldn't use the term whacko about people of faith. I think faith and belief is a powerful and in some cases a wonderful thing. But to claim that one KNOWS that God exists is dangerous.
 
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