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Snake, rattle, roll: GOP targets python rule
- Thread starter EricRoscoe
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dave partington
Crazy Dave
yes, it would be so bad if the everglades pythons preyed on an endangered (liberal) species.
I see it as conservatives with control issues. Regardless of what political organization they think they represent.
I dunno yet, how about you put on your antler helmet and we go for a stroll in the woods?
tyflier
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You can't pigeonhole me, or my beliefs. Like most of the rest of the logical and reasonable people in this country, my political views fall squarely in the middle of the road, wishing for personal freedom, legislative protection from corporate fraud, and socio-economic stability for our entire population.
Unfortunately, these three basic, and Constitutionally guaranteed, rights seem to be foreign concepts to the current selection of Republican politicians. Right alongside with the ideas of debate, compromise, "...of the people, by the people, for the people...", and The Common Good.
I don't support politicians based on their party of choice. I support them because of their actions, their words, and their records of political action.
I don't really care about who they sleep with as long as it's legal. I DO care if they take a strong stance against illegal immigration, while hiring illegals to work in and around their home. I don't really care if they share half-naked pictures of themselves to consenting adults, as long as it's legal. I DO care if they make up lies and pretend "facts" as a means of bolstering hate for others and support for themselves. I don't care if they sleep with an intern in the Oval Office, as long as it's between consenting adults. I DO care if they kidnap undocumented females, and hold them in servitude at their private club.
Unfortunately for the Republican Party...that requires me to be a Democrat 9 out of 10 times...
Nanci
Alien Lover
Sorry, you can all hate me, but *like!!* starting with Bill Nelson- I blame him personally for this whole CF.
tyflier
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So you think liberal democrats deserve to be killed and consumed as so much prey?
Would you be just as happy if someone said conservative republicans should be run through the shredder and fed to the pigs?
That's pretty shameful, Nanci. It's one thing to despise an individual for their own actions. It's entirely another to wish harm against an entire group for the actions of an individual.
tyflier
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That's fine and dandy, Nanci, but you, me and anyone else that has been here long enough knows fully well that if anyone made the exact same statement regarding conservatives and/or republicans, there would be infractions handed out, scoldings given, and people would likely be banned.
You can pretend all you want, but you know that's true.
God forbid you make a statement like that about libertarians. This forum might explode...
tyflier
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No wonder our Government is in such a tremendously deep hole. Feed your opponents to a predator rather than working on solutions is considered "politics".
There was a time when a noose and burning cross was considered politics, as well. That got this country just as far, didn't it...
The threat isn't in the literal interpretation of those words, it is in the implication of those ideals. Anyone that disagrees with your political viewpoints should be "disappeared". There was a government that attempted just that. Their reign ended around 1944...
Most of the people on this forum are intelligent enough to know that Burms can't eat people. Whether or not lavender is aware of this fact remains to be seen. The point is that whether he meant it literally or figuratively, it is an attitude that isn't supposed to be condoned on this forum...
Does bill nelson know that burms can't eat people. Anyway I have issues with most political parties. I like to vote for a Christian but that usually leaves me with no one to vote for. Especially if one of particular party is commiting adultery between consenting adults, forwarding porno between consenting adults and stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. And did you use freedom and the gov't controlling social economic stabiltiy in the same sentence?
tyflier
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No, I never said anything about the government "controlling" socio-economic stability. I said it was something I wished for our entire population, meaning stability for more than just the upper 5% of income earners, and income taxes for ALL income earners, including major corporations and CEOs of those corporations.
And you voting Christian, and voting based on Christian morality rather political acuity, is a large contributing factor as to why Republicans have been able to drag our economy through the mud, and saddle our citizenship with legislation that is entirely morality based. Talk about freedom? Yea, go ahead and restrain personal freedoms by forcing religious moral values on the entire population in the form of legislation. That's freedom? No, that's legislating morality, and is 100% un-Constitutional. And un-American.
Try to remember that things like pornography, sexual relations outside of marriage, and "adult chats" are all perfectly legal, perfectly acceptable to many citizens that do not classify themselves as Christian nor burden their lifestyles with YOUR particular moral code.
See, the way you vote...because of morals, because of a religion...this is precisely what our founding fathers were trying to prevent when they established a separation of church and state. But you go ahead and keep voting fr someone that lies about their moral standing, while raping our economy. I'll vote for those whose morals might be personally loose, but whose political history shows a strong preference for equality and fairness amongst ALL American citizens.
And I don't give a hoot about Bill Nelson as an individual. You want to feed him, personally to a python? Go for it. I'll be there with bells on and a camera for photos. But that's because Bill Nelson, personally, as an individual, is an idiot. It has nothing to do with the political party he associates with.
Let's see, murder laws that's not legislating morality. Theft laws that's not legislating morality? Hate crimes tha's not legislation morality? Indecent exposure? There are a few laws left against adultery. Quotas, civil rights, eeoc. Yeah none of that is legislation morality. Quit being jeolous of those who have busted their chops to make it in this country and choose not to give money to you just because they're rich. Hey here is an idea, leave rich folks alone and they will create jobs. Or do you have a job from a poor man. Weather you believe it or not everyone has a moral or immoral slant in politics. Thing is there is politics according to the welms of men and then there is absolutes like the Holy Bible. Hmmm let's run the country the way you want to do it.
Nanci
Alien Lover
Infraction for what? Saying a politician is despicable? Well, unless he's a member here, please point out the rule that prohibits that.
Go ahead- say George Bush is despicable and see if anyone gives you an infraction. AFAIK, he isn't a member here either.
tyflier
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No, those are legislation of morality, it is legislatively protecting citizens that cannot protect themselves. I never said Anarchy was the way to go. Laws that prevent a person from impinging on the rights of others are precisely what our legislative system is designed to do. Murder isn't illegal because it is immoral. Murder is illegal because it completely and entirely infringes upon the rights of other citizens to live their life. Hate crime isn't legislating morality, it is preventing abuse upon a group of citizens by another group of citizens.
Telling 2 consenting adults that they cannot marry each other because they both have the same genitalia is legislating morality. The difference? It doesn't effect you or anyone else. It doesn't impinge upon your rights to live your life how you see fit. Homosexual marriage should not even be an issue. ALL people are guaranteed the same rights in this country by our Constitution, yet for some reason, Republicans seem to want to prevent a large percentage of our population from HAVING those rights based on...what? Oh, right...a religious morality.
Name one. Just one law that stipulates adultery as a crime with a sentence and punishment. If you commit adultery, it is grounds for divorce, and subsequently, the adulterer will likely pay support. But it isn't a crime. It doesn't go on a criminal record, and you don;t serve jail time for it.
You're right. None of that is legislating morality. Again, it is preventing one group of citizens from taking away the rights of another group of citizens. Nothing moral about telling people that they cannot discriminate...
Jealous? Not me. I'm simply talking about requiring major corporations to contribute to the tax system to the same degree that the middle class is required. I'm also talking about preventing capital fraud through legislation. That's got nothing to do with morality or jealousy, no matter what Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh want you to believe.
And..."rich folks" have been left alone. They were completely deregulated as an industry under the GWB administration. That's precisely why our economy has tanked. Not because of spending, but because of deregulation and rampant fraud. That's what happens when you give "rich folks" carte blanche to do "business" however they want. They cheat, steal, and lie, and it drags the entire economy through the mud.
The "holy bible" is no more absolute than the Bible of Tyflier is an absolute. The holy bible is a myth. It's a story. A fairy tale designed to frighten people into thinking and behaving a certain way. Nothing absolute about it.
And yea, we SHOULD try to run the country "my way". Let's try running a country based on protecting the rights of the individual over those of the corporation. Let's run a government based on compromise and solutions rather than bigotry and mudslinging. Let's run a country where every person, regardless of their income, pays into the tax system in order to provide a stable infrastructure for the entire country. I would LOVE to see this country run that way. After all...it is what our founding fathers intended.
You're in WAY over your head, lavender. Every reply you make shows just how little you really comprehend about our current state of political affairs. You should quit before you say something you will regret.
tyflier
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Well, now that's not what was said, and you know it. The comment made was against liberal democrats, not Bill Nelson. Pay more attention.
I was infracted for saying GWB and Rush Limbaugh were retarded. Neither of them are a member here and yes...I was infracted. Remember that? I do.
I have received a few infractions for referring to conservatives and republicans negatively. I was told I was being "incendiary". I was infracted for "inflaming". Is this not the exact same thing? I'll help with the answer...Yes. It is exactly the same...
tyflier
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Yes, read the article. These laws have been ruled unConstitutional in 99% of cases. It is the republican conservative morality Nazis that are fighting to keep outdated, Puritanical morality laws on the books. Precisely the sort of unConstitutional activity I am referring to. More legislation of morality. More impingement of personal freedoms by the right wing retards.
vliberatore
New member
I read it. Just stating that in some states they are still on the books. Also thought it was worth mentioning that it is enforced in the military, even if they aren't considered part of the general population.
tyflier
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Yea, but I believe that there are very few states that have the ability to enforce such moral legislation. The states where such ridiculous laws are still enforced are very likely the same states that would prefer to see other similar laws still on the books...you know...laws that regulate whom an individual is permitted to associate with based on the color of their skin, laws that dictate your value as a human being dependent on race, and laws that still require women to be subservient to their spouses.
Funny...I think lavender might live in one of those states...:nyah::sidestep:
And yes...Military regulations are wholly and completely different from the laws regulating the general citizenry of this country. Just like your boss can impose a strict dress code at work that the government cannot enforce for all citizens, the Military can impose specific regulations that do not govern non-military citizens. It is a job, with a boss, and a "Code of Ethics" that is specific to those under the employ of the Military.