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Breaking News....Burmese Kills 2y/o....

Did you guys see the USARK press release? Very well done!

"WILMINGTON, N.C. (July 2, 2009) - The United States Association of Reptile Keepers (USARK) was deeply saddened to learn of the tragic death of 2-year old Shaiunna Hare, who was killed in her home in Oxford, Florida Wednesday morning. Although authorities have not ruled out foul play, the Sumter County Sheriff's Office has initially reported the cause of death to be a 8-foot Burmese Python that was being kept in the home as a pet. The Sheriff’s Office further reported that the family did not have the necessary permits to handle or keep the snake, nor did they have the required caging or follow proper safety protocols as mandated under Florida State law.

Florida Fish & Wildlife and the Florida Reptile Community have established strict guidelines for ownership of this type of animal within the state. Burmese Pythons are a ‘Reptile of Concern’ and fall under a statute requiring an annual permit. There are strict guidelines for secure caging, education and experience requirements and inspections. USARK is a strong advocate of handling and safety protocols and industry best operating procedures. We would like to recognize Florida Fish & Wildlife, Sumter County Sheriffs Dept. and Lake- Sumter EMS for handling this emotionally delicate situation in such an even-handed and professional manner.

“Although we still have a lot of questions, this is a tragedy that could have been prevented and that is truly heart wrenching”, said USARK President Andrew Wyatt. “Ownership of any animal requires a great deal of responsibility, and reptiles are no different. USARK works with states across the nation to implement strong safeguards aimed at preventing situations like this from ever occurring”, added Wyatt. “Unfortunately animal related tragedies are not uncommon. Dozens are killed every year by dogs and horses. This case is unusual because there is a snake involved; but even more so because of the apparent gross negligence and disregard for law. There are strong laws in place in Florida. If the laws had been followed this death would never have occurred. Our heart goes out to the family as they deal with this tragedy and wrestle with the knowledge that they played a major role in it.”

The US Association of Reptile Keepers (USARK) is a science and education-based advocate for the responsible private ownership of, and trade in reptiles. Widely recognized as setting the standard for safe responsible reptile keeping nationwide, USARK endorses caging standards, sound husbandry, escape prevention protocols, and an integrated approach to vital conservation issues. Its goal is to facilitate cooperation between government agencies, the scientific community, and the private sector in order to produce policy proposals that will effectively address important husbandry and conservation issues. The health of these animals, public safety, and maintaining ecological integrity are its primary concerns.

Currently USARK has state legislation pending in North Carolina that would require secure caging standards, safety & escape prevention protocols as well as penalties for negligence and violations.

Contributors: Andrew Wyatt (President USARK), Dennis Sargent (Fl. Reptile community) & Greg Graziani (Fl. Reptile community)"
 
Very well written. I hope some of the Florida papers will pick it up and run with it.
 
So question for the masses....

In response to this particular tragedy and the clear precedent that Florida is setting with regards to microchipping requirements for large snakes, is this something everyone ought to adopt? Should we all strive to microchip our large snakes? Is this considered "proof" of responsible herp keeping at this point? Or is it just one more way for vets to make money?
 
I would if required by law, but not otherwise. On the other hand, I have no desire to keep anything larger than the indigo.
The most important thing is, we should all be in compliance with the law. Fight the law if you don't like it, but be in compliance in the meantime..
 
Good questions....

So question for the masses....

In response to this particular tragedy and the clear precedent that Florida is setting with regards to microchipping requirements for large snakes, is this something everyone ought to adopt? Should we all strive to microchip our large snakes? Is this considered "proof" of responsible herp keeping at this point? Or is it just one more way for vets to make money?

as far as the vets they had nothing to do with the decision to chip large snakes, FWC did. But I am sure they are glad to benefit from it and would like to see it continued, possibly expanded.

I visited New Jersey in the 80s and a Rock Python had escaped so it can happen anywhere. Of course when Winter arrived chances are the python would have expired. So I'm guessing there will be a degree of urgency like Florida's before anyone else adapts these measures.
 
LOL and that snake will get bigger than some Boas.

Are all boas required to be chipped? I don't know about the laws with that, we don't have them here.. I was assuming they were only required for giant deadly snakes.
I can say with confidence the indigo won't ever constrict anybody, lol. Not that I'm looking forward to meeting his jaws the wrong way either :sidestep:
 
Boas are....

Are all boas required to be chipped? I don't know about the laws with that, we don't have them here.. I was assuming they were only required for giant deadly snakes.
I can say with confidence the indigo won't ever constrict anybody, lol. Not that I'm looking forward to meeting his jaws the wrong way either :sidestep:

exempt from chipping in Florida. I believe only the Green Anaconda, Retic, Burmese, Amethyst, and Rock Pythons are included in snakes, the Nile Monitor is the only lizard on the list.
 
I don’t think chipping makes you more responsible as a snake owner. It would make you law abiding in the states that require it. I think the only reason for chipping at all is so they can prove the snake is yours when he gets in trouble. It is like registering guns, it’s to help convict you not the gun.
 
I don’t think chipping makes you more responsible as a snake owner. It would make you law abiding in the states that require it. I think the only reason for chipping at all is so they can prove the snake is yours when he gets in trouble. It is like registering guns, it’s to help convict you not the gun.

Well said Wade. I was trying to get at that in my round about way. In a state that doesn't require chipping, I would only do it if I was worried about having to prove an animal was mine- IE if I worried someone might steal it.

If I owned an 'ugly black rifle' equivalent of a snake, and wanted to go the extra mile to be the model owner, I'd worry more about his caging. I'd always make sure it was beyond secure..
 
This morning....

Bill Nelson (D) Florida, hit the floor to once again propose a ban on snakes over ten feet.
 
We will have to wait and see what USARK's response is. I for one will be happy to write in letters to back up my friends and colleagues in Florida. Any law like this going onto the books sets a precedent that we don't want.
 
Chipping can not make someone be a responsible pet owner but it CAN prove that you have been irresponsible if you dump your pet somewhere and it is found. I think its a good idea to help track the irresponsible pet owners out there. But what if you have a chipped snake and sell it to someone who in return oneday desides they don't want it and they release it? Is there some sort of process for changing over ownership attached to the microchip?
 
Chipping can not make someone be a responsible pet owner but it CAN prove that you have been irresponsible if you dump your pet somewhere and it is found. I think its a good idea to help track the irresponsible pet owners out there. But what if you have a chipped snake and sell it to someone who in return oneday desides they don't want it and they release it? Is there some sort of process for changing over ownership attached to the microchip?

I think there is..I seem to remember on an episode of "Animal Cops" an officer complaining that a microchipped dog that was picked up did not have current information on his chip. It seemed he was rehomed a year or 2 before and the new owner didn't revise the information...
 
They were talking about the python again this afternoon, on talk radio. They had a snake expert who was giving facts, such as the number of people killed in the US by pythons in the past XXX years (12) and the fact that it was relatively sinmple to buy an enclosure that would safely hold a snake of this size, and that burms hadn't been found in the everglades until after Hurricane Andrew, when all kinds of wild animals were accidentally freed. In _my_ area, people seem to think the owner was stupid and it was not the snake's fault.
 
If you sell a "reptile of concern" within Florida, it is only legal to sell it to another permit holder. You will need to keep their permit # on file (not sure for how long). Not a bad idea to keep a record of the check or other payment as well.

I believe it is similar to the car dumping problems. I only found out a few years ago that if you sell or give a car away without removing the license plate, you can be responsible if the buyer doesn't register it, and dumps it or causes some kind of problem. So you have to be proactive with everything these days, and cover yourself one way or another.
 
A tragic story that will do nothing good for the reptile enthusiasts and the reptiles themselves. The foolish keeper will now have to live with the child's death on his conscience.


Had a quick flick over the comments section: :headbang:

My point is these are "domesticated animals" if it were up to me all animals would remain wild that is there natural state, and I would run around naked because thats my natural state. To each its own if you want to own a tiger or a Pit Viper as a pet that on you but its unnatural and unless you know what your doing wich allot of these people dont its very irresponsible. Even the most experienced of animal handlers have had unexpected encounters, look at the late Steve Erwin! Im just concerned about the children as I said they dont have the knowledge or defence. I love animals, but I do not own any PETS because I would rather see them in their natural environment.

I laughed, thought about commenting, but then realised there isn't enough hours in the day to answer to an argument like that.
 
I laughed, thought about commenting, but then realised there isn't enough hours in the day to answer to an argument like that.

So true. I posted up a couple of replies and then realized I'd be all day if I kept up and it would do no good.
 
Yeah noone will ever really listen to what we have to say if their minds are already made up.. I've tried before to no avail.. :(
 
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