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Motley Intrigued?

Best name for imperfect Motley pattern.

  • [B]Q-Tip Motley[/B]

    Votes: 1 3.8%

  • [B]Zipper Motley[/B]

    Votes: 4 15.4%

  • [B]Aberrant Motley[/B]

    Votes: 8 30.8%

  • [B]Dog Bone Motley[/B]

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • [B]Other - Please support your description.[/B]

    Votes: 13 50.0%
  • Total voters
    26
  • Poll closed .
Jay@PJCReptiles

Jay@PJCReptiles

"Quality Before Quantity"
Hi Everyone,
I am positive this question has been asked before but I would like your feedback on it please. What do you think the best so called "Trade Name" for an imperfect Motley should be? There are quite a few of them but what I would like to know is, if you were the one who was able to determine this name, what would it be and why? I have my own feelings about this but as I said I would like to know what you think. Thanks for looking and I would appreciate the insight.
Jay :cool:


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Anery Motley "Jezzabelle"
 

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Looks like a striped motley to me.. The only way I know how to describe it really...

Regards... Tim of T and J
 
Hi Tim,
No she is definitely just a Motley. She does look like a Motley/Stripe but still just a Motley. I didn't add that as an option as that is a genetic make-up that is all together different. I am not asking you to name the snake posted. She is just being used for a visual descriptive. What I am asking is what you would prefer the so called "Trade Name" to be. Thanks for the reply.
Jay :cool:
 
I've always liked "pin-stripe motley", because I like the way it sounds, and because I think it fairly well describes the abberrant "look" of most imperfect motleys. The only problem with that name is the potential for confusion if people are not clear as to the genetic makeup of the snake. Some people *could* confuse "pin-stripe" with motley/stripe or motley het. stripe or striped motley...whatever it is being called these days.

FWIW...I have an imperfect anery motley that I refer to as a pin-stripe motley...
 
I choose 'other' because a imperfect motley is basicly a 'ugly' motley.
If it has a (almost) perfect pattern, then you could call it al Q-tip or zipper motley. But I also think that those names are just added sometimes to sell them for a higher price.

So I say: Motley = motley
 
Josua said:
I choose 'other' because a imperfect motley is basicly a 'ugly' motley.
If it has a (almost) perfect pattern, then you could call it al Q-tip or zipper motley. But I also think that those names are just added sometimes to sell them for a higher price.

So I say: Motley = motley
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Ditto. Too many people want to give every individual snake its own unique morph name.
 
I would personally stay away from using aberrant motley as there is nothing odd or unusual or aberrant about that one's pattern. It's a motley with some Q-tipping and some striping/pin-striping. And Tim calling it a striped motley did not insinuate that it carried a striped gene. There is confusion with that which is why people are trying to use other terms to indicate a motley carrying the stripe gene. Most are using motley het stripe now, but motley/stripe works well. Trying to give motleys yet another trade name is going to only add to the confusion. I would suggest that you stick with what is already in use.
 
The reason this mutation was named motley was because it was so, well, varied. The mutation itself produced a "motley crew" of phenotypes. Too many subdivisions will confuse things more than help things. Already, people talk about NOT getting into corns because the obstacle of breaking into the changing terminology seems insurmountable to them.
 
Generally when we get snakes like that I call it just imperfect patterned motley. But I will use other names to describe the pattern depending on the snake. Q-tip motley brings to mind a very specific pattern, motley with non-conjoining stripes. Zipper and aberrant also bring to mind very specific patterns, which I don't see in this snake. I would have also thought that by looking at the snake there was stripe influence, maybe just imperfect motley is the best way to go on this.
 
KJUN said:
The reason this mutation was named motley was because it was so, well, varied. The mutation itself produced a "motley crew" of phenotypes. Too many subdivisions will confuse things more than help things. Already, people talk about NOT getting into corns because the obstacle of breaking into the changing terminology seems insurmountable to them.
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I agree. When I think "motley" I don't necessarily think of a snake with perfect "ovals" from neck to tail. The dorsal pattern could be just about anything. If you want a motley of a certain look, you have to see the snake prior to purchase. I voted for "other".
 
Typical motley...

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Motley with a Q Tip effect..

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I don't have a full body picture of our banded like motley, for an example.. Now Carol might have an old picture of the abreant motley rootbeer she produced last year.. * I should have got that one *...

Regards.. Tim of T and J
 
I voted for aberrant.

1 : straying from the right or normal way
2 : deviating from the usual or natural type : ATYPICAL

When you look at Tim's picture of the "typical" motley, that's what I picture when I hear the term. Anything other than that I would consider aberrant, and would further describe from there, eg pinstrip aberrant, Q-tip aberrant. Aberrant, to me, is a general term meaning straying from normal.

Nanci
 
LOL. Typical motley is like saying jumbo shrimp....

These oxymorons make snake breeding a "Fine Mess." I'm "Almost Ready" to keep my eyes "Wide Shut" over the entire issue. It isn't like one person has a "Monopoly" on the "Modern History" of giving snakes "New and Improved" names - even if some of those names are "Pretty Ugly." Sorry about my "Subtle Exaggerations," but the irony of some of these names really are "True Fictions." ...and that is my "Unbiased Opinion" on this entire mess.
 
I've heard people say "ribbon motley". Seems to describe the look without implying any "stripe genes"

I call mine a striped motley. I actually do not know if he is homo mot or half & half. Waiting to find a stripe to pair him with to see.
 
I vote for other. Striped motley is how I would describe the motley posted by Jay & PJ. A motley nonetheless.

I don't understand all this Q-tipping and abberant malarky. Motleys IMO do not have perfect oval spots running down the whole of their body. I don't think there is such a thing as the "perfect" motley. Motley is as motley does...
 
LOL. Typical motley is like saying jumbo shrimp....

These oxymorons make snake breeding a "Fine Mess." I'm "Almost Ready" to keep my eyes "Wide Shut" over the entire issue. It isn't like one person has a "Monopoly" on the "Modern History" of giving snakes "New and Improved" names - even if some of those names are "Pretty Ugly." Sorry about my "Subtle Exaggerations," but the irony of some of these names really are "True Fictions." ...and that is my "Unbiased Opinion" on this entire mess.
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Gees KJ, I see your point, but it is an redundant oxymoron.. Much like my said post.. *lol* :cheers:

Regards.. Tim of T and J
 
I've always used motley stripe as that is how it has been for a while. Now, however, I think people are moving away from that since stripe and motley are different and motley stripe tends to confuse the situation. If it were to change I personally like pin stripe motley...
 
I voted other, because I feel a motley is a motley. I think the whole trade name thing has gone waaayyyy overboard with the amount of names being used. Every snake that is slighty different has to have another name thrown on it to make it fancier. Personally, I'm think it's gotten totally out of hand.
 
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