SnakeAround, I love hearing that. My Upper Keys Rosy Rat would be happiest if we never ever took him out. He's sort of a scaredy snake. If he's out of his hide, hidden under the aspen and we open the viv, he hauls tail into his hide. If we catch him snooping around the screen looking for a way out, he recoils and tries to look innocent. He's a character. I sort of feel guilty for not getting him out, but I feel guilty for stressing him, and not taking him out, but part of me feels like he is happier. He's in a 29 gallon long, but I have the room on my dresser to get him a 33 gallon long (which is 48 inches long compared to this 30 inch long we have.............) and if he is going to spend a lot of time in his viv, I am going to invest in a bigger one (either homemade or not) for him.