Are we killing the future market?

[KJUN]

Yeah, at NARBC Ill be taking the bullet. Right now you shot him and I healed him. You did shoot him in the gut and I had to sew him up.

At least make it a .45ACP or .357 Mag. Don't tell people my backup when walking the roads at night is a .32. I'd hate for that dirty little secret to get out. It's be like, "Look at KJ. He carries a little baby girl's gun when snake hunting. I hope he doesn't break a nail."
KJ

 

[Vinman]

At least make it a .45ACP or .357 Mag. Don't tell people my backup when walking the roads at night is a .32. I'd hate for that dirty little secret to get out. It's be like, "Look at KJ. He carries a little baby girl's gun when snake hunting. I hope he doesn't break a nail."
KJ

too funny:laugh:

 

[mike17l]

At least make it a .45ACP or .357 Mag. Don't tell people my backup when walking the roads at night is a .32. I'd hate for that dirty little secret to get out. It's be like, "Look at KJ. He carries a little baby girl's gun when snake hunting. I hope he doesn't break a nail."
KJ

Do you still use that cucumber melon soap?

 

[ForkedTung]

No you are twisting my words around this is total BS what you wrote. I never said I want to Flood any market . Prove what you acusse me of and post the whole post not just some tiny pice of it to make you look right. You dont have to search hard we are on this thread

Now why would you expect me to do something you yourself were unwilling to do within this very thread?
Besides I don't have to, as far as I know you didn't say you were going to flood the market. Those were my words, that's why they were written in my post.
There is another thread here asking breeders if they were going to produce more or less this coming year. My take on it ( could be wrong) as well as my position is that most are in fact cutting back on production. Demand is down, at least from my perspective and therefore so are prices....Maybe "flooding" was a bit overzealous a word, but the gist remains the same. Your practices don't appear to follow your preachings.

ps) I don't play poker or stocks for that matter...

 

[Vinman]

Do you still use that cucumber melon soap?

Too funny . I have tried cucumber soap, it does make your skin feel softer .

 

[KJUN]

Do you still use that cucumber melon soap?

That's going too far, Mikey. Plus, you know it makes me feel special. From now on, the only home made soap YOU will ever get from Kasi will be lavender w/ Luffa or "butterfly dream." B.D. is the one that smelled like old gym socks, so she never actually made it into soap....lol.

Speaking of which, we've got about 15 pounds of rendered deer fat that should make almost twice as many pounds of soap sitting in the ice box. All Kasi needs to do is add water an lye to it now!

Too funny . I have tried cucumber soap, it does make your skin feel softer .

What is worse, vin, is that he's talking about the home made, hippy-like, soap my wife makes from deer we kill and eat. I'm like the world's most conservative hippy.....lol.

 

[mike17l]

That's going too far, Mikey. Plus, you know it makes me feel special. From now on, the only home made soap YOU will ever get from Kasi will be lavender w/ Luffa or "butterfly dream." B.D. is the one that smelled like old gym socks, so she never actually made it into soap....lol.

Butterfly dream, that is priceless.

Speaking of which, we've got about 15 pounds of rendered deer fat that should make almost twice as many pounds of soap sitting in the ice box. All Kasi needs to do is add water an lye to it now!

Very nice, I expect my fair share of mainly stuff, you know lavender, creamsicle, rootbeer, jungle, and butter.

What is worse, vin, is that he's talking about the home made, hippy-like, soap my wife makes from deer we kill and eat. I'm like the world's most conservative hippy.....lol.

You Sir, are an oxymoron, or was it just a moron, I don't remember.

 

[Vinman]

Now why would you expect me to do something you yourself were unwilling to do within this very thread?
Besides I don't have to, as far as I know you didn't say you were going to flood the market. Those were my words, that's why they were written in my post.
There is another thread here asking breeders if they were going to produce more or less this coming year. My take on it ( could be wrong) as well as my position is that most are in fact cutting back on production. Demand is down, at least from my perspective and therefore so are prices....Maybe "flooding" was a bit overzealous a word, but the gist remains the same. Your practices don't appear to follow your preachings.

ps) don't play poker or stocks for that matter...

Did you read the last part of the post that said I will cull of some high end animals if I have to. I missed out on animals I wanted out of my stock being I did not produce what i wanted last year. Most of my stock is homo for this and that and het or PH for other genes. I want the breeding stock. I want the hatchlings that I want for me future breeder stock. I'm not playing into the who got the best price next year. I hope to sell out to eroupe most of my highend morphs. I hope thay can afford them if not I will be looking for trades the last resort is culling. I will do my share to help keep price up

 

[vetusvates]

The wisest post made so far in my humble opinion. If you want to make a living selling snakes then this should be written on your wall to remind you everyday...you ultimately need to satisfy the consumer, the buyer...or you DON'T have one. You can say a snake is worth $2000.00 but if you have no buyers...then go ahead, hold it back, keep it for another year...it won't be worth $2000.00 then either.

You know sometimes I think some folks are trying to inflate prices for all the wrong reasons. Is it status? Is it hype? Congratulations on isolating/discovering a new gene but hey folks...tell me you've found a cure for cancer and then maybe your secret pill/remedy is worth $2000.00. A cornsnake? It's a snake...a pretty creature, a different colour or pattern. Isn't personal satisfaction in discovering something no one else has had the 'luck' of uncovering yet enough recognition? We aren't talking real life here folks, we are talking hobby for the majority of buyers. Investment quality snakes...sorry I just don't buy it!

If you want to think it's something special go ahead...hype away. Personally, I'm in this hobby to make beautiful snakes, plan the breeding, nuture the gravid female, tenderly watch over the eggs, become excited about the possibility of what will hatch, get those cuties feeding and established, choose my keepers, and then pass on that excitement to someone else...share it with others who have a similar passion and perhaps make a little money to offset my costs of having/being part of such a miracle of birth.

I'm just shaking my head...is there no passion left with some of you or is it really all about how much money you can make? Can't anyone remember the good old days when corns were admired and loved as just that...a cornsnake!

My .02 cents and that's peanuts in this high stake world of "investment corns".

Ruth

Ruth, I cannot not give you a standing ovation for this post. The kind and generous gesture of a friend request to someone so wise and so kind will be forthcoming presently, whether you like it or not.
In any business, even mine, running a Substance Abuse Facility, you must please someone or something for the business to continue to exist. And the type of business you run, and the manner in which you do it,...draws...me...to...you! In a wholesome, mysterious, timeless sort of way.
Thank goodness, Plato, Aristotle, Jesus, and Mohammed had such a grasp on their market. Their businesses were still thriving, the last time I checked, and their names have been and will be remembered forever. For the product they provided to consumers.

 

[Vinman]

That's going too far, Mikey. Plus, you know it makes me feel special. From now on, the only home made soap YOU will ever get from Kasi will be lavender w/ Luffa or "butterfly dream." B.D. is the one that smelled like old gym socks, so she never actually made it into soap....lol.

Speaking of which, we've got about 15 pounds of rendered deer fat that should make almost twice as many pounds of soap sitting in the ice box. All Kasi needs to do is add water an lye to it now!



What is worse, vin, is that he's talking about the home made, hippy-like, soap my wife makes from deer we kill and eat. I'm like the world's most conservative hippy.....lol.

I bought mine home made cucumber soap from a person that used to be on the forum I for get her screan name but her real name is Jocelyn :cheers:

 

[Nanci]

Do you still use that cucumber melon soap?

Does he use cucumber soap to disguise himself so he smells like a rattlesnake, so he can sneak up on you???

 

[mike17l]

I bought mine home made cucumber soap from a person that used to be on the forum I for get her screan name but her real name is Jocelyn :cheers:

Kasi makes some fine soap. I am jealous of KJ. Perhaps someday I can have a wife that is as Hippy as his, except I want one with even more brains and personality.

 

[vetusvates]

Help me understand. Vinny is the guy who wants to put a $2000 price tag on his snakes. So if I read this right he had 15 snakes that didn’t sell for his price and that constitutes a $30,000 loss. Oh the IRS is going to love you.

A loss is when your expenses exceed your income. That is vastly different than not making as much as you dreamed you would.

Thank you Wade. I'm no economist, but I do know that. Thanks for stating that.

 

[Vinman]

you guys crack me up.

 

[mike17l]

you guys crack me up.

I am so glad that this is the last week of our semester and that were giving exams today, otherwise I would have missed all this great stuff.

 

[KJUN]

I bought mine home made cucumber soap from a person that used to be on the forum I for get her screan name but her real name is Jocelyn :cheers:

Don't know her. Kasi enjoys making her home made soap and chapstic. It started because we had all this extra wax from our bee colonies amd all this fat from the animals we harvested. It was just going to WASTE. Being so hippy-like (yes, Mike, I'm an oxygenated moron), this bothered us. She keeps doing it because friends beg for it and her skin does NOT dry out in the winter here like it used to with store soap.

Does he use cucumber soap to disguise himself so he smells like a rattlesnake, so he can sneak up on you???

What Mike is talking about is that I make Kasi make "men's" scents for me: Pumpkin spice mainly. Kasi loves cucumber melon, so she makes a lot of that. I never realized how much I was used to that smell until I was in a mall and a lady walked by. I turned to Kasi and went, "Mmmm, she smells like cucumber melon." Kasi tells all my friends about my effeminate moment......lol.

Kasi makes some fine soap. I am jealous of KJ. Perhaps someday I can have a wife that is as Hippy as his, except I want one with even more brains and personality.

Make sure brains and personality is evenly balanced in your future wife. If she is unbalanced 9lacks personality or lacs brains), your friends will talk about it behind your back.
KJ

 

[mike17l]

Make sure brains and personality is evenly balanced in your future wife. If she is unbalanced 9lacks personality or lacs brains), your friends will talk about it behind your back.
KJ

I think you can go back to school to augment that.

 

[wade]

If she has her personality augmented, people will talk about that as well.

 

[mike17l]

If she has her personality augmented, people will talk about that as well.

As long as all things are equal, I'm alright.

 

[LBoz]

Does Kasi sell her soap online or anything? I love homemade soap. You should put a thread on your forum, KJ!