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Coming Soon to my Backyard.

Wow! That first video was scary as all get out! See if that were my dog,I'd think a shock would've calmed him down much quicker,easier and safer than basically wrestling him to the point of him choking and me bleeding. Of course,that behaviour wouldn't have been tolerated at my house into an adult age.
 
This was my first post. Completely reasonable, insightful, and I even wished him luck with the puppy!.


This same post was then followed by this.....

Eric, I respect you a ton, but just read my first post and tell me what's wrong about it!. I love this site very much, and many, many people on here are so helpful and kind including you. This is just another thread gone sour due to disagreement!. I bring the milk, they bring the baking soda!. I just wish it was the fun threads that got all the hits!.

You see the problem with that is, it just always so happens that you and your brother have very similar opinions and always seem to post in the same threads, and it usually is around the same time as each other. Many of us really do not believe that yall are in fact two separate people. At the very least yall's ideas are similar enough to each other that we really do not think it matters if yall are two different people. So, thus you get: Rickael, Ricky/Michel, ect.

As for KJUN's earn a paycheck spiel, that kind of ignorance bleeds through with every word. Try real living KJUN - it would crush you!.

Yeah he has a job.
 
It was advice!. Dog training is something very near and dear to my heart, due to the over-euthanization crisis of dogs in America. If more people implemented proper techniques, than these dogs could be loved and not killed.

No, I think the "over-euthanization" problem would be from people that let dogs run free, these dogs are allowed to breed at will and the puppies are kept. So here lies the real problem with over-population, not people not knowing proper training procedures.

As for making a dog not bother a Porcupine; it's simple, but you have to be consistent.

You will be consistently pulling quills out of the dogs face.

:bowdown:
What I do with my dog's is whenever they are about to get into something they shouldn't be getting into I say "leave it" and when they look at me I praise them with "Good boy/girl", "Excellent Job", etc., and then when they come I offer a reward. Not much, just a pinch of string cheese, but the amount doesn't matter. Dogs don't feel slighted if you praise them well. They will make mistakes, but just stick with it and it will work. Way's to incite their curiosity is to place something tastey on a plate right on the floor. When they go near it say leave it; if they leave it then immediately reward with praise and cheese, if not then remove the plate and start again. Eventually they will get it to the point where just praise will suffice. One thing you don't want to do is have them associate Porcupine with a bad experience, because that will create fear, and anxiety, and ultimately may make the dog snap. Just encourage the good responses, and restart the process when they fail. They will catch on and won't need any sort of physical touch to respond in due time. I've only had Rajon for a year to the day, yet right when I say "leave it" now he rushes right towards me. Then I say "good boy" and rub his belly. That earns both love and respect, and makes him beyond eager to learn more. If you seriously have any problems with dogs, odds are I've seen it and I would be more than glad to help out. That's not being arrogant, I've just learned how to make it work with positive reinforcement. Ideally the breeder you go through will have already worked on the basics with your puppy, but problems may show up down the road, and building a loving bond with the dog is the best tool you have!. Just be consistent and you will have a perfect dog in no time!.

You make mention of "failure" or "set backs", how would you, using only "positive reinforcement", train a dog to not go up to a rattlesnake? In South Texas, Western Diamondbacks are very prevalent, it is essential to the life of the dog that they do not put their face (or other body part) in a rattlesnake's strike zone. The only way I have ever effectively seen a dog learn to flee from a rattlesnake is with the use of an e-collar and negative reinforcement. Now I am not going to say that I have seen more dogs trained than you, because well that would be arrogant of me, but I will say that I have seen many many dogs trained to avoid snakes, as well as I have trained many dogs to avoid snakes. The fact is, the only effective way to "snake break" a dog is with the use of an e-collar. A rattlesnake will very rarely give a dog a second chance.
 
The best part about this WHOLE thread is that I don't know if I started the OT discussion with the tail nipping comments, if Mike did with the training aids comment, or if everything just has to go crazy whenever my son's genitalia are mentioned. Either way, it's funny!

Tail cutting makes them look good, that's why I do it. LOL, and anyway, there only a couple days old, they barley feel it and it heals very quickly. :sidestep:
 
I would also like to pull this thread off course some more if I can (not that I was trying with my first post in the thread). But I degress; both of my dogs are intact. Neither are spayed/neutered. :sidestep:
 
So back to the puppy. They are adorable!! Congratulations!!

On dogs as tools: I haven't quite worked out what Bella's true calling is yet, but she's really good at holding down the carpet...
 

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Beyootiful dogs! Can't wait to see your pick Brent. I've only ever heard positive things about that breed. I like the look, kind of what I think of when I picture a "dog shape".
Thread got a little carried away? Always the same people. I must remember to comment early next time, it's less reading that way.
I read the entire thread, yeah I know. Pretty sure this said it right here about the e-collars, and pretty sure someone didn't read it and think about it before responding, maybe I can help:

That's all fine and dandy in a perfect world where the dog is by your side on a leash 24/7. How do you recommend I positively reinforce my dogs to do the right thing (stop, retrieve, change direction, go farther, come back, stop chasing a rabbit, ect) when they are 10-200 yards away in thick South Texas brush or 100-500 yards away across an ag field or 50-300 yards away across a lake, bay, or swamp? Please tell me how to do this. The fact is, as a working bird dog (as well as a member of the family) it is a far more efficient use of time and energy to use an e-collar as an aid in training.

I'm certainly not a "dog trainer". I've trained every dog I have cared for with positive reinforcement and it has worked well for both me and the dogs but I've never had to train a dog to work under those conditions. It must be very satisfying when you get to the point where can work together with an animal that well. I see footage of dogs working like that and they look so intent on their job, and so eager to do it.
We're going to need some pics of that later, like Mike's? I guess maybe you guys don't really have time to take pics while you're working them but I'd like to see that.
 
Can't wait 'til you get that puppy!
Thanks!

So back to the puppy. They are adorable!! Congratulations!!
Thanks Nanci.

On dogs as tools: I haven't quite worked out what Bella's true calling is yet, but she's really good at holding down the carpet...
You can never have too many things holding down the carpet! ;)

Is it time for pandas yet?
I'm thinking soon...
Robyler, if pandas show up, I blame you, and you will be put "on the list".

Beyootiful dogs! Can't wait to see your pick Brent. I've only ever heard positive things about that breed. I like the look, kind of what I think of when I picture a "dog shape".
Thanks alan. Kinda sorry you had to wade through some extra garbage along the way, but I think the discussion was relatively worthwhile.

D80
 
I will say, the general approach to dog training has changed drastically since I trained for obedience in the early 80's.
 
You teachers and your technicalities... So do I at least get partial credit? :laugh:

If an engineer messes up on a bridge just a little bit so it doesn't fall down for 2 or 3 weeks instead of immediately, does he still get partial credit? Of course not. I'm not an engineer, but I still don't give partial credit. It is ALL or NOTHING. Like when you buy a puppy: you should get all of the puppy or none of it.

Hey Brent, did they at least give you the tail tip? Maybe you do have all of one puppy if you put the parts together.....lol.

(BTW, I actually do give lots or partial credit in my classes when the student earns at least some points....the entire post above was all BS in jest.)
 
I will say, the general approach to dog training has changed drastically since I trained for obedience in the early 80's.
Would love to hear your opinion(s) as someone who did this as a job. :shrugs:

(Oh, and btw, congrats on getting a cute puppy.)
Thanks Robbie.
I like your dog.
Thanks.

Technically, it is only PART of a cute puppy.
I don't think you every answered Mike's question. Do you only have PART of a son? And did you save the 'bits'? ;)

D80
 
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