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Freaking out! My first snake laid an egg- she was a virgin as far as I know!

Your 70g 6 month old snake MAY HAVE bred your 150-200g snake in November. Or, if you were brumating them, it might have caused your female to cycle, and produce a clutch of slugs. There are many proven cases of females randomly popping out a clutch of slugs, even when no male was introduced.
CALM DOWN. Take a deep breath. Leave... your snake... ALONE.
 
They didn't breed her. But the snakes were shipped in the same container to my friend, so they could have bred.
 
RobbiesCornField said:
Your 70g 6 month old snake MAY HAVE bred your 150-200g snake in November. Or, if you were brumating them, it might have caused your female to cycle, and produce a clutch of slugs. There are many proven cases of females randomly popping out a clutch of slugs, even when no male was introduced.
CALM DOWN. Take a deep breath. Leave... your snake... ALONE.
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We did not brumate. The other eggs have already hardened and yellowed, with the exception of one egg which is bright and firm, but not hard and much larger than the others. I'll leave her alone. I'm more concerned about her than the eggs.
 
nwheather said:
I'm confused.
She's about two years old now, or she was two a little more than a year ago?Also, just to confirm, she was only with the one male that you put in her cage, & that was the 10 gram male, last November?
I'm asking all these questions because I'm trying to get a clear picture of the whole situation.
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nwheather said:
What about these questions...
how old is she now? at the beginning of the thread you said she was two years old, but then later said she was shipped when she was about two, but you've had her for a little more than a year.
Also, how long has it been since she's been with *any* males?
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Lyion said:
They didn't breed her. But the snakes were shipped in the same container to my friend, so they could have bred.
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She was shipped how long ago? You have had her for more than a year, & you got her from the person she was shipped to, so how long ago was she shipped?
 
nwheather said:
What about these questions...
how old is she now? at the beginning of the thread you said she was two years old, but then later said she was shipped when she was about two, but you've had her for a little more than a year.
Also, how long has it been since she's been with *any* males?
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I slipped up with the age. To be exact, she is Two years four months and one egg.
 
nwheather said:
She was shipped how long ago? You have had her for more than a year, & you got her from the person she was shipped to, so how long ago was she shipped?
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That, I do not know. He said she had only been there around a month or two.
 
Lyion said:
I slipped up with the age. To be exact, she is Two years four months and one egg.
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Ok, so just so I have this right.
1) Since you have had her for more than a year, she was about a year old when you got her, correct?
2) that said, it's been more than a year since she was shipped, with that male
3)the last time she was with any male, was back in November when you accidently put the 70gr male in with her, & looking at her iHerp page, she was in the 60-80 gram range back then

Is all this correct?
 
Lyion said:
That, I do not know. He said she had only been there around a month or two.
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Ok, so that said, she was less than a year old when she was shipped then.

My money is on the eggs all being infertile.

Right now, with the fact that she was last weighed at less than 170grams (right before she laid eggs) my biggest concern would be that she does not become egg bound, since she's so tiny.
 
Okay, I'll put down the entire time line.


Xia pipped August 10 2010

Late June or Early may, my friend had shipped the snake to his house. When he opened up the package, she was in the same container as her brother from the same clutch.

I went over to his house, fell in love with the snake and after a while of begging, he sold her to me on June 1st 2011.

On September 10th 2011, I bought Worm, who was at that time, 4 months old.

On November the 26, I held him and accidentally put him in her cage. I searched around the house thinking I had lost him and an hour or two later, checked Xia's cage where they were sharing a hide. I put him back in his cage and never made the mistake again.

He was lost on January the 7th, and according to tracks, he had gotten outside. (luckily, he's a normal)

Late this month, aroun

Sunday, July 8th, after acting increasingly weird, (roaming aimlessly) I offered her the usual sized mouse, which she refused.

July 10, at 1 in the morning, I went upstairs to go change the water dish. I looked inside of her vivarium and saw an egg inside the moss, and Xia beneath it. I thought it was one of her fake glow in the dark eggs, and moved it aside only to realize it was real. I looked at her and saw her laying eggs. I gave her a night to rest, then went upstairs and checked on her at four today to see if she finished. She had not. The only egg which had not hardened and turned yellow was the first one, which I had put away in an incubator after grabbing it without knowing what it was.
 
Okay, so since she hasn't been with the male for quite a long time, I would guess that the egg is infertile. It won't hurt to incubate it.

Can we just focus now on what is best for the snake, and guiding the owner toward the steps any of us would take if it was one of ours? I have purchased a yearling in the past who was cohabbed before I got her, who went on to lay a fertile clutch, when the snake herself weighed 80 grams. With proper care and a lot of luck, she made it through just fine. It can happen to anyone.
 
I just remembered that my sister had put him in with her once to clean out his tank (he was her snake) Knowing her, she could have done it beforehand and wouldn't tell me.
 
She was in disbelief that he could even father her, and didn't think cohabbing was a big deal.
 
It would never even cross my mind to do that. Another advantage of using feeding bins. A complete cage cleaning can be accomplished while the snake is feeding, with no risk to anyone.
 
She looks so scrawny now, and I bought a fuzzy. I guess I'll feed it to her tomorrow morning.
 
Nanci said:
It would never even cross my mind to do that. Another advantage of using feeding bins. A complete cage cleaning can be accomplished while the snake is feeding, with no risk to anyone.
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At that time, we had feeding bins for both! I yelled at her so much because she didn't want to grab one!
 
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