Help ID our two new babies?

[Kes and Sam]

At the Portland Metro Reptile Expo last weekend we got a great deal on a couple of gorgeous female 2011 corns. The only problem is that they don't appear to be the color morph(s) the breeder told us. We've been doing our best to get a visual ID on them but are relatively new to corn snakes and aren't 100% sure on either one.


This girl was sold to us as a Butter Motley/Stripe but her brown doesn't seem consistent with Butter babies we've seen. We're thinking she could be an Amber or possibly a Golddust. The brown on her appears much redder in photographs--it is a muted brown, the stripe on her back is very yellow and her sides are pale yellow.

This girl was sold as a Sunglow Stripe, but she looks like a Hypo Stripe to us. Her back is pale orange tinted pink and her sides are pale pink.

Any help would be appreciated, and certainly let me know if any additional information would be helpful!


-Kes

 

[komodo_28]

The first one I would say looks like a butter motley/stripe. http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/butter_motley/

The second one if it was sold as a sunglow stripe I would think or hope thats what it is. Great looking snakes either way!

 

[Susan]

They both look to be exactly what you were told they are. The sunglow (amel) stripe might be a sibling to the butter as her coloration has that yellow wash seen in many (but not all) het caramels. The brown on your butter mot will disappear and change to yellow as your snake gets older.

 

[AliCat37]

Yep, the first is a mot butter,
and the red eyes are a give away that your stripe is what she was sold to you as.

 

[Kes and Sam]

Thanks all for the input! It's great to know they are what they were sold as, I was unsure because of the amount of brown on the butter but I'm ecstatic to find out they are what we were told and be able to get an idea of what they will look like as adults.

Can't wait to see their coloration change with age!


-Kes

 

[airenlow]

Here are a couple before and after pics of similar morphs...

Butter Motley

Amel Motley

 

[RavenSpirit360]

It appears that you where told correctly what they are They are beautiful, congrats!!

 

[Abstrakciq]

Hi to every one,i need to know what my snake is, her parents are female normal and male hypo corn snake.and i don`t know is it only normal .....She is 7 months old

 

[Abstrakciq]

another picture of her

 

[Abstrakciq]

and i have another question male Anerythristic and female Snow what will be their children?
And female motley when you combine with male Anerythristic does it makes Snow?
And when i combine female snow with hypo?And then i take from their children male and mate with his mother Snow what will happen?

 

[Shiari]

The one you pictured is a normal that is het for hypo.

Anery to snow gives you all aneries. IF the anery is het amel, then you would get aneries and snows.
Motley to anery = normals het anery, motley. They will all look like the baby you posted pictures of.
Snow to hypo = normals het anery, amel, hypo. They will all look like the baby you posted pictures of.

If you breed a normal het anery, amel, hypo to the snow, you will get normals, amels, aneries, and snows.

 

[legitimatehypnotist]

What a gorgeous Amel Motley! I am such a sucker for those

 

[GillianC]

To the OP:

I agree that your new pick-ups are probably what they were sold to you as. Congrats!

One thing that's not always well-advertised is the amount of variation that can occur within any morph. I have a whole strew of classics, some of which have a very brown background with muddy red saddles, some that look like Miami's, and some which are bright orange all over - all from the same parents. I have a beautifully contrasted anery with nice yellow sides, and a ghost which is hard to differentiate from her! Often it can be hard to tell what a morph REALLY is (if there are a lot of genes present in homozygous form) without breeding trials.

This is all part of the fun - they all look so different!

 

[GillianC]

Ugh. By "strew" I mean "slew". Sorry for the double post!