Justin Bieber has a pet BCI

[Blue Apple Herps]

Definitely not a Bieber fan, and this isn't about him, but the reactions here. As a community, we rail against the judgmental hatred of snakes and reptiles, and the way some people think about those of us that keep them. But some celebrity you don't like (who you don't even know, btw), has a reptile pet and this is how you respond? It's one thing if there were stories about abuse or mistreatment. This is all just because Justin Beiber has a pet boa, and you don't like him? Seriously? Look in the mirror, people.

I don't like Justin Bieber's music, and I think the hysteria over him is completely overrated. But that really doesn't have anything to do with whether or not he is capable of properly loving and caring for a BCI.

He needs a boa for the same reason that anyone else would need a boa. Because he wants a pet boa. The fact that he sings songs that young girls seem to like really has no bearing on his ability to care for a pet boa.

What makes you such an infallible judge of character that you can make such claims as these against someone I can easily presume you have never met?:shrugs:

Couldn't have said it better myself. It seems silly to get onto him for getting a boa. Maybe it will cause people to now want one who wouldn't have gotten one otherwise. Unfortunate? Absolutely, but that's a silly reason to attack someone for something that someone else may or may not do!

So long as the BCI is well cared for I could care less. He has just as much of a right to a snake as any of us do.

 

[Kokopelli]

It doesn't look like a dwarf locality... according to the colors, it's a hypo Colombian.

Regardless... you can't blame him for owning a snake. If he will mistreat it, the paparazzi will at some point publish it as a "hot story".
And if not... well, even if he is less than the most amazing human being in the world... at least he will set an example how to treat his snake properly.

You can't hold him guilty for what his wish to own a snake do or not do to the animals... I think we should really get down from our high horses a bit... how many of us sold animals and shipped them out? Can we know for a fact that the new owners do not mistreat them?

Would any large scale breeder even exist if a personality test was conducted per customer?

We do our best to sell our animals to good homes- but we can't and shouldn't judge. There's a good chance that some of the animals we will sell will die at incompetent hands... but I'd feel less comfortable determining who would be a good keeper and who would be a bad one based on minimal interaction.

We have a responsibility to offer assistance and knowledge whenever's possible... Justin Beiber will not be the reason for impulse dying and incompetence amongst keepers... that phenomena had always existed, and will continue to exist.

Irresponsible people acquire pets all the time, and the animals pay the dear price sadly.

 

[Kokopelli]

impulse buying, not dying.... :awcrap:

 

[pridecity]

I've never heard his music and couldn't pick him out in a crowd of two. I don't keep up with Hollywood news any more than I keep up with sports news. I have noticed, and agreed to, the fact that like any famous "trend" someone is going to want what they see other people having. After the royal wedding, how many women went out to copy the bride's outfits?

I've also noticed that it doesn't have to be a famous person or movie. About two weeks before and after the reptile expo here in Denver, you'll see a sudden increase of for sale ads for reptiles on Craigslist. At the moment, besides the usual billion cat and dog ads, there are a ton ads for guinea pigs. Next week, who knows?

When will we get some famous people who can get a "cool" pet and announce to everyone that even though they have one, not everyone needs to copy it and to research the care of the animal? That would be second on my list after donating to charities if I were to become famous.

 

[tyflier]

This isn't the first person, celebrity or otherwise, to have their pet boa in a "stressful environment". Boas are commonly used for publicity stunts in every media form, by celebrities and musicians alike. People walk around their town/city with boas wrapped around their neck quite regularly in this country. How many people here have ever gone to an NARBC convention? Thousands of people walking around with their boas, pythons, and various other snakes, out on display.

The point is, there is nothing in the interview or photograph to suggest that the snake is being mistreated. There is nothing in the snake's reaction to indicate a high level of stress. There is nothing there to truly invoke such an angry response to an individual owning a snake.

Some of you really need to come down from your high horses and give people the freedom to make their own decisions about which pets are appropriate for them to keep. This thread is pretty ridiculous, to be honest. You are condemning an individual for what other people MIGHT do.

 

[dionythicus]

I originally posted this to be funny. I only happened to come across this on MSN and thought people would find it amusing/concerning that we could be looking at a new fad pet. I don't know anything about Beiber and had to ask my husband if his first name was Jason or Justin.

I get worried when kids see a living creature as a popular thing to own. Companies wouldn't hire celebs to whore out their products if they didn't influence what people want to buy. In this case, with it being a snake, I don't think there is too much to worry about. We aren't going have any impact in what happens by discussing our opinions on here, so let's let it go.

 

[joann42]

LOL, its cool to hate Bieber..He has a great looking bci there.
Everyone just gets jealous because hes rich, semi talented, and cute and is barely old enough to drive.And to top it off most off, its mostly just luck, knowing the right people, being in the right place.Well I say good for him, its nice for someone to have a good life.I just hope he doesnt screw it all up..Wish it was one of my kids.But alas they have to scrape out living like the rest of us.

 

[ShenziSixaxis]

I don't like Justin Bieber's music, and I think the hysteria over him is completely overrated. But that really doesn't have anything to do with whether or not he is capable of properly loving and caring for a BCI.

He needs a boa for the same reason that anyone else would need a boa. Because he wants a pet boa. The fact that he sings songs that young girls seem to like really has no bearing on his ability to care for a pet boa.

What makes you such an infallible judge of character that you can make such claims as these against someone I can easily presume you have never met?:shrugs:

Okay, 'want' would have been a better word.

my concern is that he thinks his boa is only going to get 4ft long. if he thinks that, the evidence suggests he has no idea how to care for it.

Unless he got a male of a sub-species, but I doubt it.
Hell, I doubt he even knows there are so many sub-species and whatnot and just got the one he based on a photo and went "Pretty! I'll take that one", or something to that degree.

Perhaps it's a dwarf? Though I don't recall if any of the dwarf localities stay quite that small.

Caulker Cay dwarfs max out at a bit smaller than 4ft for females, I think. Somewhere in the 3-4 foot range for those.

Costa Rican and the Nics are pretty small too.

 

[Millinex]

I'd be willing to bet the kid has no interest in the boa at all, just the aspect of the "big snake". Thankfully though, it's probably cared for by someone who knows what they are doing, and they are making decent money to let JB use it in photo shoots or something.

 

[Hypancistrus]

The backup singer for the British pop-rock group McFly raises Bearded Dragons and keeps several other varieties of reptiles. I thought that was pretty cool, really. I'm not into carrying my snakes around in public, but people do it... I'm not into dressing my dogs up in outfits... but people do it. Who am I to judge if the snake is not in iminent danger?

 

[azhketh]

Caulker Cay dwarfs max out at a bit smaller than 4ft for females, I think. Somewhere in the 3-4 foot range for those.

Costa Rican and the Nics are pretty small too.

Yeah, I knew about the Costa Ricans. Just wasn't sure if there was a dwarf boa that small that color.

 

[tyflier]

Okay, 'want' would have been a better word

Doesn't matter which word you use. Justin Bieber has just as much right to own a BCI and to carry it in public as anyone else..

Unless he got a male of a sub-species, but I doubt it.
Hell, I doubt he even knows there are so many sub-species and whatnot and just got the one he based on a photo and went "Pretty! I'll take that one", or something to that degree.

So you mean he chose his snake the same way that roughly 80% of the rest of sake owners did?

What information do you have to suggest that he is any less knowledgeable about his snake than you are about yours? Because he's a young pop star? Because he's a pretty-boy with a halfway-decent voice? Or just because he makes more money in a year than most of us will in our lives? Frankly, none of those things give any credible reason to accuse him the way you and others have.

Caulker Cay dwarfs max out at a bit smaller than 4ft for females, I think. Somewhere in the 3-4 foot range for those.

Costa Rican and the Nics are pretty small too.

It's a BCI. Regardless of locality, it isn't gonna become a huge snake. It might get bigger than 4ft, or it may not. Heck if it's a male Colombian, it may never get more than 5ft in length. The size debate is rather unimportant, in my opinion.

But then again, this entire thread is rather unimportant, and little more than a snotrag for some arrogant hobbyists to talk crap about someone else in the hobby. unch:

 

[Kokopelli]

It's not a dwarf locality.

 

[ShenziSixaxis]

tyflier, you know you're also looking pretty arrogant, right?
And I'm not going to answer your questions/statements when you're contradicting EVERYTHING I say (even though you've stated it's probably everyone in this thread?). If you dislike this thread so much, why keep posting?

Yeah, I knew about the Costa Ricans. Just wasn't sure if there was a dwarf boa that small that color.

I don't think so without it being a cross.

 

[TheJadeReptile]

my concern is that he thinks his boa is only going to get 4ft long. if he thinks that, the evidence suggests he has no idea how to care for it.

I agree with this. I am not going to argue over whether he knows what he is doing or not. I just hope people who don't care about snakes, get one and don't know how to take care of it.

 

[Lyion]

This is a popular thread I haven't got my imput in. There will always be impulse buyers, which always annoys me. Likewise, JB tends to try to act (self censorship) bad....butt? Well, apparently, he thinks having a BCI will make him look tough -.- . Not a reason to get one of these.

 

[Jessicat]

Hrm, the problems I see is that as a baby, this is a gross misinterpretation of how large BCIs get. I suppose they are smaller than an RTB, but still.. a BCI isn't exactly a snake that will create 0 problems as an impulse buy, which is unfortunately what I see them becoming.

The other thing that makes me roll my eyes is that it appears that he acquired his "friend" just so that he can say to all the females he encounters, "want to hold my Johnson?!"

As for what a messed up kid he is:
I feel sorry for him! He was discovered roughly 3+ years ago and his carreer skyrocketed into space. 3 years ago nobody knew him, now he's 17 and drives a Ferrari. Show me a kid who can stay "normal" with that kind of attention and life change.

And of course all of his beloved fans will feed just as vigorously off of his probable misfortunes and drug addiction as he enters his 20s..

Okay, FYI, I'm not really that strongly oppinionated on tihs subject, I'm just trying to make a few funnies.

Honestly, who better to care for a snake which requires a pretty large chunk of space and money than someone who is immensely successful? He could probably start his own mini zoo if he wanted and hire people to care for his animals for him..

 

[azhketh]

Honestly, who better to care for a snake which requires a pretty large chunk of space and money than someone who is immensely successful? He could probably start his own mini zoo if he wanted and hire people to care for his animals for him..

Uh oh, a new Neverland Ranch? :eek1:



;P

 

[Cassie16]

I think I'll just go ahead and insert myself into this discussion for the sole sake of boredom

I think it's a bit...imprudent to say that someone is incapable of properly caring for a BCI based on their celebrity. I mean, yeah, the kid's a douche, (he did refuse a gift from the mayor of Cincinnati on TV because it bared a reds logo ) but none of us really have the appropriate insight to ridicule his qualifications as a pet owner based on this one occasion.

As for him putting the snake in a "stressful situation", I will gladly admit to inserting my own snake into equally "stressful situations" almost every time I have company. Most of my friends are eager to hold my snake, and so I oblige. I would consider these occasions relatively stressful for my snake, considering that there are usually a lot of people in the room making noise and what not. Furthermore, I've had a few friends who are absolutely terrified of snakes want to hold him in order to tame their fear a bit; I know for a fact the snake doesn't particularly enjoy those moments. I honestly don't think Mr. Bieber is any more guilty of stressing his snake out than I am of mine.

I call for us all to unite on this matter, and perhaps sing in unison one of Justin Biebers crappy songs. That is all!

 

[tyflier]

I think I'll just go ahead and insert myself into this discussion for the sole sake of boredom

I think it's a bit...imprudent to say that someone is incapable of properly caring for a BCI based on their celebrity. I mean, yeah, the kid's a douche, (he did refuse a gift from the mayor of Cincinnati on TV because it bared a reds logo ) but none of us really have the appropriate insight to ridicule his qualifications as a pet owner based on this one occasion.

As for him putting the snake in a "stressful situation", I will gladly admit to inserting my own snake into equally "stressful situations" almost every time I have company. Most of my friends are eager to hold my snake, and so I oblige. I would consider these occasions relatively stressful for my snake, considering that there are usually a lot of people in the room making noise and what not. Furthermore, I've had a few friends who are absolutely terrified of snakes want to hold him in order to tame their fear a bit; I know for a fact the snake doesn't particularly enjoy those moments. I honestly don't think Mr. Bieber is any more guilty of stressing his snake out than I am of mine.

I call for us all to unite on this matter, and perhaps sing in unison one of Justin Biebers crappy songs. That is all!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

The fact that this kid is rich, semi-talented, and uber-popular does not in any way, shape or form indicate an inability to provide optimal care for this animal.

There is nothing in the interview nor the photographs to suggest improper care. Nothing. Not even the so-called "stressful environment".

This entire thread is nothing more than personal gratification through denigration of another. People making themselves feel superior by making someone else appear inferior. And it's based entirely on personal prejudice, because their certainly isn't any logical cause for alarm and absolutely isn't any visible cause for alarm.

I guess some people just enjoy trying to hold people down, rather than being happy about a renewed interest in a hobby we all hope to save.

Has anyone considered how an influx of interest in boa species might impact our governments attempts to ban these snakes? A couple thousand screaming fans spending a couple million dollars on snakes and equipment could go a long way towards showing a viable opposition to such nonsense...

But instead, you'd rather insult, insinuate, and denigrate the guy, without an inkling of an idea as to what his care level is for this animal. Really quite unbelievable...