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Such a beauty. I want to breed them someday. If you look up coral snows, you'll have more luck finding examples. Poppycorns has some nice pics.
 
Chris thanks but that snake is the same one as the one in the link I put up already. TY Dreamsnake, I'll check out poppycorns too. :)

Any members have them in a personal collection? I'm wanting to see some more 'standard' versions of this morph.
 
Lunar Gecko said:
Chris thanks but that snake is the same one as the one in the link I put up already. TY Dreamsnake, I'll check out poppycorns too. :)

Any members have them in a personal collection? I'm wanting to see some more 'standard' versions of this morph.
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That IS the standard for the morph as JMG Reptiles was the first to coin "salmon" snow. There are a variety of high pink snows, but they are also known by a variety of names...coral snow, neon snow, bubblegum snow, etc.
 
Marsha (poppycorn here on the forum) has some beauties. I talked to her yesterday, and she was supposed to be taking pics and trying to update her site this weekend. Very very nice lady. Very busy IRL, too.
http://www.poppycorns.com/Colorpages/Pink_snakes.html

Sorry, I don't know the difference between coral, salmon, and champagne. All high pinks, though. Zorro, here on the forum, has some, too.

Also, "Walter Smith" here on the forum. Look at his beautiful avatar.

Also, Don Soderberg at South Mountain Reptiles. His photo gallery.
 
When it comes to snows there are many names for various lines. The salmon snow from Ian's viv is a amel x anery x strawberry. It is a new morph since strawberry shares an allele to hypo a and has remained hidden within hypo lines causing great consternation for breeders as it took many crosses to isolate. The trick to making salmon snows (fingers crossed) is to get a hold of strawberry morphs, not back cross the genes with any other hypo, and breed with a snow for a chance of a triple homo morph. Well those are my plans, I'll let the world know how it goes when I get started.
 
Oh so Strawberry and Hypo are like Ultramel and Amel. That clears a lot up. I was getting confused. :D Thanks a bunch.
 
There's been a few really good threads on the different "pink" /aka Red Factor bloodlines that explain the histories/differences/etc... Try using the search fucntion to see if you can locate any of them here in this forum...
 

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Thank you for the pictures. Beautiful snake. Did you produce that one?
I will try the key words you suggested for a search. Unfortunately when I tried my other searches I did not know what key words to use. :D
 
OMG. Graham, I mentioned everyone but you. I am sorry, that was not intentional.

I'm still wrapping my mind around your being the Tessera Man.
 
Here are a couple pics. of my Salmon Snow & Salmon Ghost.
I got mine from Jim Selpflug of Southwest Wisconsin Reptile. I believe Jeff at JMG Reptiles got his line from Jim as well, but has refined them even further for the intense pinks.

It's my understanding ( If there is any other info that I'm missing, please fill me in ) that the Salmons intense coloration does come from the Strawberry line and that Coral Snows are more selective bred for coloration using the Hypo 'A' trait, which displays a more subtle pink coloration then we are seeing in the Salmons. When a Coral Snow hatches, you usually don't see any pink tones. It's not until some maturity does the coloration come in, on the other hand Salmons hatch with the pink coloration and intensify as they mature.

Test breedings are still being done by some to see if any of the Salmons, Corals, Champagne, Neons, Bubblegums are related traits.

Walter
:crazy02:BOUT' CORNS !!
 

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Walter Smith said:
It's my understanding ( If there is any other info that I'm missing, please fill me in ) that the Salmons intense coloration does come from the Strawberry line and that Coral Snows are more selective bred for coloration using the Hypo 'A' trait, which displays a more subtle pink coloration then we are seeing in the Salmons.
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As much as I have been against the idea of Strawberry being responsible for the pinks. I cannot deny the obvious FACT that Jim Stelpfug DID originate BOTH the STRAWBERRY corns & the Salmon ghosts/snows. It's more than a coincidence.....

Yes, Jeff at JMG did get his animals from Jim and refine them even more over a few generations....

Great pics Walter...
 

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Yeah, I keep reading that the Salmon Snows are amel, anery, strawberry and the Coral Snows are amel, anery, hypo. If the hypo and the strawberry are the same allele how they differ is not really much, genetically speaking. Except its fairly confusing for a genetic noob like myself. :p
 
Walter -
Whats the difference between the top 2 pictures and the bottom two pictures, gene wise? I personally like the top one better. I like the pink/green/grey mix vs. the pink tank/brown mix better.
 
StrangeCargo said:
As much as I have been against the idea of Strawberry being responsible for the pinks. I cannot deny the obvious FACT that Jim Stelpfug DID originate BOTH the STRAWBERRY corns & the Salmon ghosts/snows. It's more than a coincidence.....

Yes, Jeff at JMG did get his animals from Jim and refine them even more over a few generations....

Great pics Walter...
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Graham,
Thanks for the comment.

I'm not 100% sure that Jim "ORIGINATED" the Strawberry line, but I have talked with Jeff a number of times on the phone and in Daytona about his Salmons and he did say he got his first Salmons from Jim as you mentioned.

I know Jeff has been working on refineing them to display more intense coloration, which basically is through selective breeding that line. Of course I know you know about that............hence your slogan..........."Selective Breeding = Selective Results"

I really dig that phrase !!! ;)

Walter
:crazy02:BOUT' CORNS !!
 
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