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Must See!! My babys 2011...Extreme Wide Stripe and Aztec, Need ID Help!!

Your female looks like an aztec I had from SerpenCo lines, circa 2004

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John Cherry's (Cherryville Farms) breeding pair of "aztecs", not sure of the year

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zigzag amel, het lavender

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Aztec comes in a lot of different "looks", and gets names like "Wide Stripe" or "Zig Zag". Your best bet is to contact some of the breeders who've worked with them over the years and email them to get some insight on how "Aztec" has bred out for them; it's not something that works like a recessive such as amelanism or even the dominant (codom? i flunk genetics at times) tessera.

That said, WOW those are some neat looking babies. The fact that the non-anery ones aren't patterned as the anery ones lends some support to what Sean of VMS observed with his "wide striped" anery snakes. Maybe motley coming into play somehow? :shrugs:

Love to see the rest of the clutch when they shed, that's some neat stuff :)
 
Amazing wide-stripe and aztec! You sometimes see the same 1/2 plain, 1/2 checkered belly when you cross motley and Sunkissed. I produced a couple of hatchlings I knew were het Sunkissed and possibly het motley a few years ago. They had that "notley" pattern on the first quarter of their length and had basically plain bellies there to match. I got similar results in later years when I produced some known het Sunkissed motley and I know others have done this as well. I recently had a couple of het Sunkissed stripes hatch out that also show a decreased amount of belly checks. Perhaps whatever gene(s) produce the wide-stripe does the same thing when motley is in het form, only to a greater extent. I worked with zigzags/aztecs when I first started with corn snakes, got some great results but it was too unpredictable and inconsistent that I dropped the project. I do have 1 aztec snow female in my collection that I keep changing my mind on selling.
 
Wow.. Beautiful... I do not know what is going on with the belly but agree with what Nanci said, and that maybe they are het motley too and are showing it partially in the belly checks..
 
Actually, I was working with a line that I simply referred to as "broad-stripe" for a number of years that I believe originated from my Blizzard line that I outcrossed into my Okeetee line to get a line of Amelanistic Okeetees with quite pleasing colors. The "broad-stripe" pattern was not expected, and didn't really seem to be very predictable, so I figured it was similar to the Aztec trait.

Seems to me I took a few examples to Expo one year, but really didn't get much interest in them there. So I didn't put much effort into the project.
 
rich333 said:
Wonder if it might also be allelic to anery B as well? Would be interesting to see a wide-striped charcoal?
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Sean shared one of the 2 original males with me, I am testing him with a female anery B from Rich Z this year and should hopefully know the answer in a couple of weeks.
 
As I have told you before there are the pictures of all entire clutch

1 - GHOST(?) WIDE STRIPED
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2- AZTEC CRIMSON
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3- VANISHING GHOST(?) STRIPED
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4- CRIMSON MOTLEY
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5- GHOST(?) STRIPED
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6- GHOST(??) MOTLEY
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7- CRIMSON MOTLEY
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8- GHOST(??) MOTLEY
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9- CRIMSON MOTLEY
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10- GHOST MOTLEY
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Ooooh- what nice clutch!!! The ghost mots are outstanding! But my favorite of all is #12. An extremely cool snake!!!
 
Nanci said:
Ooooh- what nice clutch!!! The ghost mots are outstanding! But my favorite of all is #12. An extremely cool snake!!!
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N.º 2 is my favorite.

I´ve doubt if n.º 6 and n.º 8 are Ghost, but I think they are. What do you think?
 
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