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Need Florida Snake ID

Nanci

Alien Lover
Ok- what is it? My friend says it's an Eastern Coachwhip- I vote for Florida Pine Snake. It's on his front steps.
 

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Hee, I'll play! Because of what looks like a slight indentation on the top of his head, I vote for the coachwhip as well. Pretty boy, whatever he is.
 
Head detail:

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I think it is a coachwhip as well - found these online for comparison.
Coachwhip:
CoachwhipEditedFinal.jpg


Florida Pinesnake:
FlPine11_2007.jpg
 
But there are patternless pines, and coachwhips have the very dark head, fading distally.
 

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It looks to be a Black Mamba.. :eek::eek:



just kidding, I really can not tell from this picture. IT could be a pine but It could be a young one but Pines tend to have bigger heads.. more gurthier.

At first I thought it was a rat snake But I can not tell from these pictures. Heck, if this snake was in my hands, i could tell you right off the bat.
 
He says it's six feet long. If I could handle it, I could tell too. Coachwhips are smooth, pines are keeled. He assures me it doesn't want him to pet it. I told him it was bluffing- that's what pines do! The coachwhip would just bite the *&^% out of him.
 
Well, the coachwhip has 17 dorsal scale rows at mid-body, and the pine has 29. I think I can count eight in the pictures, on one half. Maybe he's a coachwhip.
 
Coachwhip, if I had to say... I have seen coachwhips without dark colored heads, and that appears to be what it is... But like you said coachwhips tend to be aggressive and bite the #$@$ of of you.....
 
I am fairly certain it is an Eastern Coachwhip. If it is a pine snake you better pick it up as that is one of the nicest patternless animals I have ever seen and the Pitouphis gurus would love you for it!
 
I really wanted it to be a pine snake. I sure would like to see either one, ever! Thanks, you guys.
 
appears to be a HIGHLY irritated coachwhip, pretty heavy "dragon" scales. What is it doing on his porch? selling girlscout cookies?
 
Nanci, what has become of him? Is he still there?

I don't know. He was just out in my friend's yard- he didn't catch him or anything, just took pics while he was there. Thankfully, he didn't choose a snake-hater to move in with. The snake, if he's now living there in the yard.

While I was working on the turtle enclosure and not riding my bike with the bike club, they saw a CORN SNAKE while riding. Sure would like to see one of those, too!!
 
Neat-O! It's really beautiful! I would totally want it on my porch, and I would grab it and get the &^@$ bitten out of me. But I wouldn't care; I'd have to hold it. I LOVE the way its scales look!
 
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