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Need Identification Help . . .

Spurticus

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A guy on another board I moderate, took a picture of this snake at a
park where he was playing Frisby Golf. He asked me what kind of snake
it was. Have yet to find a definite match but I'm guessing from the
range maps of SC, this is an intergrade of Rat Snake (maybe Yellow
and Corn Snake, or Yellow Rat variation of some kind).

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Whatever it is, it's a beautiful snake. Would love to have seen a closeup
picture of it.

This guy lives in North Augusta SC, and said this was seen at a park
near his house. .......... Any help by the experts here would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks
 
Not convinced but hey, I have no experience with them and can't find any other option, so you are probably right :)

Thanks for answering :)
 
That picture looks very much like a yellow bellied racer, but since they are not found in SC, I don't think it is, but it is probably a very closely related relative, hence the black racer.
 
I wish we could see the head better. It does look like a racer, but they also have pine snakes that can be that color.
 
Hard to tell due to the brightness and distance, but it is either a black racer or more likely a coachwhip. Whips down here don't typically have the black head, they are usually uniformed light brown like the one in your picture.

dc
 
I wish we could see the head better. It does look like a racer, but they also have pine snakes that can be that color.

That was my first guess. It's what I told him I thought it was, but several
guys told me they had seen pines near that same part of SC, and they
said they all had the normal black pattern on them that Pines have.

Someone posted a reply in that thread this morning and said what some
of you have said in here so far. They thought it was a black racer that
is near shedding, and was just in the sunlight when this picture was taken.
That seems to be the most logical choice. I didn't really think about the
sunlight causing the color in this picture, but that may be what is going
on here. A shake in or near blue phase, and the sun hitting the dead
skin could cause it to look like that I guess. The head does look more like
a racer or coach whip, but the color threw me off.

Thanks to all you guys for your responses and help.
 
Surfing the net I don't see any picture of a black racer that lightly colored... maybe it's in shed?

I betting this is it.
Black Racers (at least here in Columbia) are all over the place. I've seen
more of them in the past few years than any other kind of snake. Although
this year, I've seen about 4-5 Black Rat Snakes and only one Black
Racer. Not sure why the increase in Black Rat snakes, but a lot of people
I've talked to from the Upstate SC, are saying they are seeing more
Black Rat Snakes than normal too ?!?!

I haven't seen any variations around here of Black Racers. All have been
the sleek dark black color. Doesn't mean I there aren't any of the off
black/grayish around, just haven't seen them.

Thanks again guys. Your help is greatly appreciated
 
Hard to tell due to the brightness and distance, but it is either a black racer or more likely a coachwhip. Whips down here don't typically have the black head, they are usually uniformed light brown like the one in your picture.

dc

I have no clue, but my first impression was coachwhip, based on the scale texture and size.

Here's a cool SC snake chart.
 
It reminded me of this snake, I have seen one live and they are gorgeous;

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But I did not expect this colors to appear in the wild, and I did not search for the range... if it's in the range, then it could be...
 
It reminded me of this snake, I have seen one live and they are gorgeous;

Patternless_Albino_Southern_Pine.jpg


But I did not expect this colors to appear in the wild, and I did not search for the range... if it's in the range, then it could be...

One of my dream snakes to find in the wild some day...
 
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