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New Eyelash Viper!! DUW...
- Thread starter MegF.
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snakemom1961
Spring is here!
He's just awesome. I certainly won't get sick of seeing pics of him. Keep it up!
MegF.
That's for sale???
Funny you should say that...........
tyflier
[Insert Witty Commentary]
...Apparantly there are quite some people here that keep venomous snakes or would like to, and would be interested. I can surely understand you don't want to give a wrong impression in such an important subject, but it does seem you did a lot of research and have a lot of knowledge about this.
If you give a firm warning about things being your personal opinion and advice on further searching for additional info, wouldn't your theory's be a good basis of the subject? In this case mostly for the "would like to keep hots"-part of the group I suppose, as the ones that already have them most likely already did research.
Just a thought here. As I said, hots aren't the snakes for me, so it's an outsider idea
Well, I don't know NEAR enough information about exotic species to even remotely begin a topic on the subject. I only know how to respond in an emergency situation to a crotalus bite, and even then, my knowledge is limited to native California species.
Obviously, I was wrong about the compression issue with this South American pit viper, as the latest protocol is the opposite of the latest protocol(in California) for rattlesnakes. Different species, different genus, different venom, different procedures. The fact is...me talking about NA pit vipers in THIS topic may give someone the wrong information regarding the species that this topic is actually about. I feel guilty enough about that as it is...
Anyone even remotely considering owning a hot snake should already be in the process of researching the proper care and caging requirements, as well as researching bite protocols, LONG before they consider which individual animal they would like to purchase.
My information *should* be OK for North American field herpers that get "tagged" in the wild. It is definitely not a source for anyone looking to keep hot snakes as pets, and definitely should not be viewed as such...
MegF.
That's for sale???
Venomous.org has links to all the venom protocols for the most commonly kept species. I also got my protocols from there and the venomous forum. I lived in So. Cal too for most of my life and mostly ran into Southern pacifics...and out in the desert, the Mojaves. We also did the snake avoidance training for dogs with Q.U. there so I had a house full of rattlesnakes each year. They are truly awesome creatures...no more aggressive or less aggressive than non venomous species. The only difference, is that they can be lethal if you get complacent. I loved working with the great basins. For the most part some of the most docile, easiest to work with of the crotalus that Bob kept. They also almost killed him when he was seriously envenomated out in the field while collecting some from a den. Your best bet when bitten is to stay calm, keep the part below the heart and get medical attention.
whippet
Tara
*giggles* OMG so true. It really is a shame they are hot. I want one...but not
snakewispera snr
The Devils Advocate
I really don't like the word 'HOT' to describe venomous, as it is misleading and ropes in all venomous snakes. They all have different venoms and toxic levels, and some are 'safe hot' and some are not. Elapids have the biggest 'HOT' name, yet the treatment for a bite is a lot more straight forward than for a viper bite.
This isn't making any sense is it..... LOL
A lot of people go on the LD50 designation of a snake, thats not even a good yard stick. The common European adder has a higher LD50 than a WDB, but the amount of venom it produces is smaller, so it's not a good guide...
Basically, you need hands on (so to speak) experience with your chosen snake. Cobras should never be kept at floor level, waist height is better. Yet you should keep WDB at floor level, for example....
The only way to find out all this info is either, trial and error or get a mentor...
Trial and error has one major draw back.... LOL
Mentors have draw backs too, thats why you need more than one, with years of experience between them.
snakewispera snr
The Devils Advocate
Arboreal, Nanci....
snakewispera snr
The Devils Advocate
I didn't see that thread.... Generally if they ain't defective they follow there true mission in life... LOL
tricksterpup
I has nuttin to Say.
:-offtopic
If i had my way, i would love to have a Crotalus horridus the MN morph of the Timber Rattler. These guys are protected though but a buddy of mine has some. He is one of the few people i know of that has these legally.
Here is one of his snakes.
If i had my way, i would love to have a Crotalus horridus the MN morph of the Timber Rattler. These guys are protected though but a buddy of mine has some. He is one of the few people i know of that has these legally.
Here is one of his snakes.
MegF.
That's for sale???
That's a neat animal. I pulled a gravid canebrake off the road one evening on the way home from work. This baby is now hanging out on his branch. He was spending all his time on the bottom and talking with other owners, they say they spend time in both areas. I like him up where I can see him better though. I love looking at his beetly little eyelashes
tricksterpup
I has nuttin to Say.
That's a neat animal. I pulled a gravid canebrake off the road one evening on the way home from work. This baby is now hanging out on his branch. He was spending all his time on the bottom and talking with other owners, they say they spend time in both areas. I like him up where I can see him better though. I love looking at his beetly little eyelashes
Meg, this guy is fantastic.. A very beautiful snake. My SO said its a gorgeous animal, and said NO before I could even ask. lol
As for the Timber Rattler yeah they are really cool, i was amazed at how brightly colored they are up here. I got to hold this one in its box that he is in right there.
