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Please help my Dekays.
- Thread starter Margulis
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Vishnu is doing well and the prolapse has shriveled, dried out and will self-amputate in due time. He's healthy, has quite an appetite and will be released once fully healed. Thanks to those who offered good advice. I haven't been to this forum in quite some time, but Salvadorian and I have been in contact and she mentions that she thought it would be nice to give you guys an update, so here it is. No concerns, he's doing well and everything is going smoothly.
RowanRR
Delighted long enough.
wstphal
working in the Gulag
Good news! Thanks for the update.
AshleyShadows
It piss me so bad.
I'm so happy he's doing well! It truly shows that we can help and rehabilitate wildlife.
tyflier
[Insert Witty Commentary]
So let me get this straight...keeping an animal captive long enough for a traumatic injury to "shrivel up" and "self amputate" is what we now classify as "no concerns", "doing well", and a "job well done"?? That's "humane"? That's "healthy"?:shrugs:
Here's the harsh reality...that animal needed one of two things...either taken to a vet for PROPER medical care and treatment or released.
You didn't do a good job by letting this animal suffer and continue to suffer while it's internal sex organs hung out of it's body, slowly dying "allowing" it to "self amputate". You did NOT do a good job of "rehabilitating" this animal because this animal will never be rehabilitated. It is now missing(or soon will be) a vital and important part of it's interior anatomy, and it is losing it because you simply allowed it to shrivel up and "self amputate".
It's not called "self amputation"...it's called atrophy. Atrophy is when tissue and flesh shrivel up and die due to lack of circulation, traumatic injury, infection, or any number of other permanent soft tissue injuries. This is not healthy, it is not "humane", it is not painless, and it is not the "proper way" to treat an animal with a prolapse.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. I don't see anything good coming from this., And now what? It gets released to the wild, missing who knows what part of it's internal organs, in the dead of winter??
Unbelievable...
Just so you know...the GOOD advice that you were given is the advice you chose to ignore when you decided to keep this poor, injured, suffering snake in captivity "to help it"...
I hope you realize that it is absolutely too late to release this animal into the wild. I hope you also realize that "wildlife rehabilitation" is typically something that falls under state regulations, requires a permit, an education, and experience in the medical treatment of injuries. Without the proper training and permits...it's typically illegal to take an animal into captivity, and later release it. You might want to check your state laws regarding the un-licensed "rehabilitation" and release of a severely injured animal. This is why rehab centers for wildlife are typically required, by law, to have a staff vetrinarian on hand. It's also why they are almost always required to be registered with the state, licensed as a vetrinary care facility, and permitted to operate only after completion of a state certification process, and satisfaction of required guidelines.
Yea...kudos to you...or something like that...:headbang:
Actually, before you get yourself all worked up.. I have been taking the advice from someone who is local and tends to many snakes, himself. He's also one of the members of this forum and checks in with me daily to see how things are going. Since nothing I say will matter to you at all and you will simply dispute my every word, I will have you know that I'm not a total moron here and am well aware of the situation.
Where did you get the bit about releasing him in the dead of winter? I wont release him until I'm 100% certain he will survive and is healthy, for a start..and secondly, you guys have all been telling me all along to simply release him, he's a wild animal and should be left alone. How many of these contradictions would you prefer me to follow?
Or would you prefer I simply send him to you so YOU can take care of him, since you are so adamant that I'm doing something wrong. He's healthy, he's healing and people asked for an update. I gave it. End of story, unless you would like me to send him to you..in which case, I hope you're covering the price of overnight shipping and everything that will be needed. So, are you?
Where did you get the bit about releasing him in the dead of winter? I wont release him until I'm 100% certain he will survive and is healthy, for a start..and secondly, you guys have all been telling me all along to simply release him, he's a wild animal and should be left alone. How many of these contradictions would you prefer me to follow?
Or would you prefer I simply send him to you so YOU can take care of him, since you are so adamant that I'm doing something wrong. He's healthy, he's healing and people asked for an update. I gave it. End of story, unless you would like me to send him to you..in which case, I hope you're covering the price of overnight shipping and everything that will be needed. So, are you?
Teddy Roosevelt
i loev cronsankes
You shouldn't have taken it home in the first place, is the point he was trying to make. You should taken it to a reptile vet if you were dead-set on taking it home.
Teddy Roosevelt
i loev cronsankes
From what I read, she didn't see the wound when she picked him up. It may have developed or been exacerbated by the stress of captivity.
LBoz
Original Curmudgeon
Local to you as in Virginia? Member of this forum...has many snakes....
Snakemaster??
Susan
Go Ahead, Make My Day!
snakemom1961
Spring is here!
O.M.G!!!!!!....Please Lord say it ain't so!. PLEASSSSSSSE!!!!
Teddy Roosevelt
i loev cronsankes
Lol... THE PLOT THICKENS -soap opera organs-
RosieReal
New member
that IS the point. the whole point. its ballooned into many people being personally insulted, offended, and offensive.
there is no doubt that wild animals should be left in the wild. its where they belong, is where they live, and its where they should die. its natural.
this snake should have been left alone...thats not what was done, so now this is the point we're at. It pretty much just comes down to a very simple statment:
its too bad this snake came in contact with people.
its too late to change thinking (obviously the OP doesnt care about this point or anyother made and there are members of the forum who support this side of the opinion. there are many opinons.)
its too late to save whatever part of the snake is soon to be lost due to this trauma.
its too late to do anything really. the OP is going to let it go eventually...and will think to themselves 'a job well done'.
I guess its just too bad.
At the very least its over.
DarkSmoke
relax = longer life span
stop arguing with forum members who dont agree with you, i support you saving your snake and many others does. but turning this tread into a war won't let it be intresting and believe me you'll never "win" , they "always win" lol.. just continue to update to the people intrested in you saving this snake or just intrested in the way its going to end
the rest, leave them to talk to the.. well thread lofl.
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