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Pretty, but what are they?

toyah

Snakes in designer genes
Speculation invited here - click on photos for bigger if you're wanting more detail. Both parents of the clutch appear to be het hypo, cinder, anery.



The baby at the bottom is what I had assumed to be a "hypo cinder". What's the baby at the top? (another comparison of the two of them - http://www.flickr.com/photos/stramash/3691819514/sizes/l/)



This picture shows a couple that match the dark baby from the first photo, a hypo, a normal, and a peachy thing.



Hypo at the top left, the dark baby from the first photo in the middle, and a peachy snake at the bottom right. There's an assortment of cinders and aneries almost out of shot on the right.



And a portrait shot of the peachy snake.
 
Good question! There are lots of wild guesses, including the light peachy one being an ultramel cinder (one parent het amel, the other het ultra) and the darker one in the first photo being either an anery cinder or a hypo anery cinder or just a plain ghost. Without seeing some of the other known anerys, cinders and ghosts, the wild guesses (instead of slightly more educated guesses) could continue all night!
 
Look at the eyes of the babies in the first pic. The lighter one looks like the darker baby only in blue. There's something odd about the lighter one's eye that just screams "I'm blue right now!".

Maybe I'm wrong?
 
Look at the eyes of the babies in the first pic. The lighter one looks like the darker baby only in blue. There's something odd about the lighter one's eye that just screams "I'm blue right now!".

Maybe I'm wrong?

He is blue in the first photo, but the colour of him is the same sloughed and unsloughed - only the eye colour really changes, the body colour is pretty accurate and they're definitely different from each other.

Still waiting for them all to slough out, there will be more photos once they're all done.
 
I have yet to see anyone ever post a picture of a snake that is both cinder + anery a. Add hypo to that and it could account for all the different looks. Peachy one, I am not sure about but since there is such a variety of looks to the cinders from Mahogany to grey, I am gonna speculate that all of those are various combos of the three genes - hypo, anery, and cinder- that you already know to be in the mix.
 
I do wonder whether the original "hypo cinder" is in fact an anery cinder, and the peachy hypo is in fact a hypo cinder ... leaving the darkr snake in the first photo to be a plain old ghost?
 
Here's a short video I did showing some Hypo Ashy Corns. Of course there are some Ashy, Hypos, and Normals in those clutches as well...

 
very hard to say for sure. me and Toyah did this shared breeding last year aswell, and I have kept back 5 (i think) from the clutch. I'll have to get them on here, they range from 30 grams to 80 or so
 
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