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Reverse striped?

K

Kim_Hansson

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Writing from Europe. This summer i bought a pair of normal-coloured corns that was told to be het. for amel. lavender and "reverse stripe". The breeder told me that the father of the juveniles was carrying motley X motley genes. And that this would result in juveniles het. for reverse stripe.


Now, I have never heard about this morph called reverse stripe. Have I been tricked?

Thanks for answers// Kim, Sweden
 
Motley x Motley = Motley

If the father was a Motley, then the offspring would be het Motley, not "Reverse Stripe." The whole "Reverse Stripe" line sounds to be a load of BS to me.

Though if the father was only a het Motley, your hatchling would only be possibly het Motley (no guarantees).
 
If they are indeed normals het for opal motley then you got a great find!

The only way you can prove out their genes is to breed them and see what you get. If indeed both are het lavender, amel and motley/stripe you should get:

Normals het lav/opal/mot/stripe
Amels het lavender and mot/stripe
Lavs het amel and motley/stripe
Opals het motley
Lav mots/stripes het amel
Amel mots/stripes het lavender

Or if you want prescise results here what the corn predictor says:

12.50%, Het for Opal, Het for Motley
6.25%, Het for Amel, Het for Motley
6.25%, Het for Lavender, Het for Motley
6.25%, Amelanistic, Het for Lavender, Het for Motley
6.25%, Motley, Het for Opal
6.25%, Lavender, Het for Amel, Het for Motley
3.13%, Lavender, Het for Amel
3.13%, Amelanistic, Motley, Het for Lavender
3.13%, Lavender, Het for Motley
3.13%, Motley, Het for Lavender
3.13%, Opal, Het for Motley
3.13%, Lavender, Motley, Het for Amel
3.13%, Amelanistic, Het for Motley
3.13%, Amelanistic, Het for Lavender
3.13%, Motley, Het for Amel

I dont know if I am misunderstanding something but if both parents are het opal and motley should there not be opal mots in the mix or would that fall into place in the F2?
 
we get reverse amels sold in the uk, cant see where this reverse has come from either(but luckily the prices are the same as the usual amels)
 
'reverse amels' could be a term to describe reverse okeetees? Completely different to this 'reverse stripe' thingy though
 
diamondlil said:
'reverse amels' could be a term to describe reverse okeetees? Completely different to this 'reverse stripe' thingy though
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no ive got reverse okeetees, amels and a "reverse" amel, these are just the same as normal coloured amels. Its like the breeders seen slight differences in it and made up a name
 
Heres the one that was called a reverse amel

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and the same breeder calls reverse okeetees, albino okeetees just to add more confusion. Thats why i mentioned it it seems like some breeders just attach their own names to them to confuse people even more
 
sorry to add again. one thing i just thought of. would a motley/stripe be confusingly called a reverse stripe. you know when you get the fully striped motley/stripes that have different widths and not the standard four lined stripes. would that explain the sellers explanation?
 
captaincaveman said:
no ive got reverse okeetees, amels and a "reverse" amel, these are just the same as normal coloured amels. Its like the breeders seen slight differences in it and made up a name
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:grin01: I think you hit the nail on the head there!
 
blckkat said:
I don't believe he was speaking of MotleyxStripe because apparently the breeder specifically sais MotleyxMotley.
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yeah, but that was the only think i could think of that someone would wrongly call reverse striped cause of the different stripe pattern :shrugs: I didn't know if one or both of the motleys were het stripe and the offspring were the striped version of stripe/motley. Is that a possibility?

Im new to the whole morph thing :) case you didn't know :dunce:
 
captaincaveman said:
yeah, but that was the only think i could think of that someone would wrongly call reverse striped cause of the different stripe pattern :shrugs: I didn't know if one or both of the motleys were het stripe and the offspring were the striped version of stripe/motley. Is that a possibility?

Im new to the whole morph thing :) case you didn't know :dunce:
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To me reverse striped is a variety in motley's which is compeltely striped, but then reversed, hence not the backgroudn color with saddle colored' broad stripes but 1 'saddle colored' broad stripe. It is a motley variety which is likely not to be caused by a striped gene cause most corns with both a striped and a motley gene, look more classic motley (dotted) to make it even more confusing.

See http://www.colorsnakes.nl/butterreversestripe.htm (reverse)

http://www.cornsnakes.net/gallery.php3?id=76 (real striped corn, e.g. 4 lined striped)

If the yellow stripe of the reverse striped would have been broad, it had been called 'broad striped', had it been rough and uneven, it had been called 'rough striped'
 
Blutengel said:
To me reverse striped is a variety in motley's which is compeltely striped, but then reversed, hence not the backgroudn color with saddle colored' broad stripes but 1 'background colored' broad stripe on saddle colored background. It is a motley variety which is likely not to be caused by a striped gene cause most corns with both a striped and a motley gene, look more classic motley (dotted) to make it even more confusing.

See http://www.colorsnakes.nl/butterreversestripe.htm (reverse)

http://www.cornsnakes.net/gallery.php3?id=76 (real striped corn, e.g. 4 lined striped)

If the yellow stripe of the reverse striped would have been broad, it had been called 'broad striped', had it been rough and uneven, it had been called 'rough striped'
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See bold typed...
 
thats sort of what i was trying to say lol. Ive seen pics of motley/stripes in the morph guide and thought maybe thats what it could be, but unsure on how it would have come about from the examples given at the start of this thread. I know you can get them from motley x stripe but didn't know if motleys could carry the stripe as het or not
 
Looks like what Europe is calling reverse stripes are what is known as striped motleys in the US. And captaincaveman's reverse amel looks like a candycane amel to me.

And just to make sure, you folks across the ocean would call this a reverse stripe (this particular snake is a motley het stripe):
 
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Susan said:
Looks like what Europe is calling reverse stripes are what is known as striped motleys in the US. And captaincaveman's reverse amel looks like a candycane amel to me.

And just to make sure, you folks across the ocean would call this a reverse stripe (this particular snake is a motley het stripe):
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the reverse stripe, motley/stripe was something i thought of because of the cornsnake morph guide but wasn't sure

yeah mine looks like a candy cane but the colours are coming through now(orange base colour)
 
Susan said:
Looks like what Europe is calling reverse stripes are what is known as striped motleys in the US. And captaincaveman's reverse amel looks like a candycane amel to me.

And just to make sure, you folks across the ocean would call this a reverse stripe (this particular snake is a motley het stripe):
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butterreversestripe.htm


IMO reverse striped is used for motley stripeds having a single thin stripe of background color and more or less 'saddle color' for the rest of their body (except belly). See this butter 'reverse' striped. I'd call your anery broad striped or motley striped, or maybe even rough striped since the stripes don't have the same with all over.
 
Only uploading seems to work.....

This pic is copyrighted by colorsnakes.nl.

See the difference in wideness of the stripe of backgroundcolor on the spine?
 

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Susan said:
Looks like what Europe is calling reverse stripes are what is known as striped motleys in the US. And captaincaveman's reverse amel looks like a candycane amel to me.

And just to make sure, you folks across the ocean would call this a reverse stripe (this particular snake is a motley het stripe):
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Nope. Actually, this is the first time i've even heard of a "reverse stripe", even though i own one myself! I think a breeder just thought it sounded better? :shrugs:

PS. Mine's the spitting image of your's in the pic, too! :)
 
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