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Still No Answer!

I take it as a given that you and the vet ruled out dietary insufficiencies.

There is the possibility that this is either an allergy, autoimmune, or an endocrine/hormonal imbalance.

Allergies would be based on trial and error. Remove something, be it the plastic waterbowl, or your substrate choice. The other two however... I don't know what could be done, or even what diagnostics would be run.

So.

Here's hoping it's a simple (if scary!) allergy!
 
OH MY GOD!!!! I am so freaking out right now. I can't even breathe and my hands are shaking

I took him out to snap a couple of pictures and to apply the cream. i was sitting at the couch and i didn't notice it because I was holding him in my lap and trying to apply the cream toward his bottom half... so he went inside the cushions to the back of the couch and i had him in my hands halfway but he was stuck down there and i had to pull him out so slowly but strongly because he was not letting me take him out and there was no way i could take him out any differently....
I pulled him out but i damaged a lot more scales of his... oh my god I can't believe i did that to him.
Im crying now because he looks awful. I should've seen his head go under the cushion.
I'm such a bad mother to him!!!
 
Cursed_Witch said:
He is in a 45 gallon tank. and yes, the water dish is plastic, i had just recently gotten it, he used to have a rock water dish.

this is interesting... plastic allergy. do you know what are the symptoms?

I don't think it's scale rot just because it's not brown.
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Try replacing the water bowl first, and see if that helps. You probably won't see results until the next shed, however. There's been more than one member here who's seen a plastic allergy firsthand. Send ArpeggioAngel a PM. If that's really what's going on, she'll be able to help you more than I would.
 
Cursed_Witch said:
OH MY GOD!!!! I am so freaking out right now. I can't even breathe and my hands are shaking

I took him out to snap a couple of pictures and to apply the cream. i was sitting at the couch and i didn't notice it because I was holding him in my lap and trying to apply the cream toward his bottom half... so he went inside the cushions to the back of the couch and i had him in my hands halfway but he was stuck down there and i had to pull him out so slowly but strongly because he was not letting me take him out and there was no way i could take him out any differently....
I pulled him out but i damaged a lot more scales of his... oh my god I can't believe i did that to him.
Im crying now because he looks awful. I should've seen his head go under the cushion.
I'm such a bad mother to him!!!
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Oh honey! You're not a bad mommy! At least he isn't stuck in the couch and sick.
 
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I'm going to be completely honest. I have no idea what's going on with him. I know I've had corns that have randomly gotten little spots where a scale or something was pulled off during a shed, or got rubbed the wrong way by a viv decoration, and they were fine by the next shed. Try changing to a different water bowl, and see if that helps out any.
*hug* I hope everything works out for you.
 
Lennycorn said:
Hell Witch...that ain't bad. You should see my snake.
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I saw yours, your poor amel looks really bad. He got burned. I'm so sorry for that.
Did you have him checked out by a vet. I hope he's not in much pain.

I'm just so stressed about him and now that I hurt him, i don't what else to do.
His scales look rotten to me. I wish I knew why.
 
Stew dose look dry.

Your are waiting for the Vet to get back to you right??\

didn't you post about this, but not as bad, before??
 
I agree that it doesn't look like scale rot at all. Maybe it is a skin allergy like Robbie said. I've never seen something like that.
 
Lennycorn said:
Stew dose look dry.

Your are waiting for the Vet to get back to you right??\

didn't you post about this, but not as bad, before??
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Yes I have, as i said in my OP. I did what you guys told me and I waited but he got worse.
The vet said that he doesnt think he looks dry, it's more like the transparent skin seems to be coming off even though he is not in shed or dry. His humidity levels are all within normal. he said my husbandry is perfect.

He think it can be an infection, he wants me to raise the himidity to try to see if theres anyway we can get him to shed and see if the skin would get better.
If you saw in the pictures... once that transparent layer comes off, the scales underneath them look like they shrank and rotten... he saw that and he didn't think it was due to dryness.
 
Very strange? I would find Kathy Love's page on here and send her a PM. She is an awesome person who is always willing to help and one of the the most qualified herpers on this site, (esp. with regards to corns) Afterall, She did "write the book on cornsnakes".
 
MinLynn said:
I agree that it doesn't look like scale rot at all. Maybe it is a skin allergy like Robbie said. I've never seen something like that.
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I think I'm going to go with the person who suggested plastic allergy.
It kind of makes sense because this whole thing started shortly after I got him a new plastic water bowl.
But does anybody know the symptoms of plastic allergy. Im trying to google it and i found nothing so far.
 
ForkedTung said:
Very strange? I would find Kathy Love's page on here and send her a PM. She is an awesome person who is always willing to help and one of the the most qualified herpers on this site, (esp. with regards to corns) Afterall, She did "write the book on cornsnakes".
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she is registered on this site? I think i may have seen a post from her selling some corns.
Im going to look for her and see what she thinks.
Thats a great suggestion. thank you.
 
Cursed_Witch said:
He think it can be an infection, he wants me to raise the himidity to try to see if theres anyway we can get him to shed and see if the skin would get better.
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What I think your vet is thinking is that the snake might be having a bad shed episode, so that's why he wants you to raise the humidity (?). Do you have the option to consult another vet?

Also, you mentioned that the snake had a stone water dish before... Did it have problems when you used that? (I'm still considering allergies as a possible cause)

Just another idea, her belly scales resemble bad nails, so this could be fungi or vitamin deficiency (?).

Kathy Love is a great suggestion. She might be able to help you or at least add to the bunch of possibilities we already have.
 
jpccusa said:
What I think your vet is thinking is that the snake might be having a bad shed episode, so that's why he wants you to raise the humidity (?). Do you have the option to consult another vet?

Also, you mentioned that the snake had a stone water dish before... Did it have problems when you used that? (I'm still considering allergies as a possible cause)

Just another idea, her belly scales resemble bad nails, so this could be fungi or vitamin deficiency (?).

Kathy Love is a great suggestion. She might be able to help you or at least add to the bunch of possibilities we already have.
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I just PMed Kathy, I hope she has any suggestions.

This is the second vet I saw. I'm not so sure where to go. I don't have a car and I am currently physically disabled (can't walk) it is tough.
He didn't think it was a bad shed because we went over the fact that he has never had a bad shed and the the scales look more like shrinking and dimply.
He is trying something, it's all trial and error.. he has no idea either. He just wants to try and see if we can do anything.
I have these medications he prescribed and its too soon to tell if he is getting any better.
He did mention fungal infection and he said he will take a look at that dried yellow substance under the microscope. He said cultures would cost abotu $100 to $150. I already spent over $450 on him for this case. And I am barely working enough hours with my disability to pay the rent... it's a lot of money that gave me no results.
 
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