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JustineNYC said:
They do. Especially how your snake has one burnt looking scale and then the rest all around that are fine. Tula had the same thing on a few areas. I honestly dont know what the heck it could be. But like I said she also had a plastic water bowl. Coincidently I use ceramic now.

Hers werent as bad after she would shed, but she shed pretty often cause she was young.


Id love to see pics after he sheds.
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I have been waiting for him to shed for a long time now. If he eats his chances will increase.

I just don't understand how the scales look dimply too. Almost like he's been poked with something.

Was it winter time when she had that?
 
Cursed_Witch said:
I have been waiting for him to shed for a long time now. If he eats his chances will increase.

I just don't understand how the scales look dimply too. Almost like he's been poked with something.

Was it winter time when she had that?
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I think it was spring actually.

What have you tried to get him to eat? Did you slice his mouse and make it nice and hot? I make slits in mine when they are still frozen (less messy) and make a hole in the skull too.

I would also try warming the mouse in chicken broth. It worked for one of fussy eaters.
 
JustineNYC said:
I think it was spring actually.

What have you tried to get him to eat? Did you slice his mouse and make it nice and hot? I make slits in mine when they are still frozen (less messy) and make a hole in the skull too.

I would also try warming the mouse in chicken broth. It worked for one of fussy eaters.
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I have tried those, I sliced, I made a whole in the skull too (this has worked before) I also change sizes of the foods to see if he would try at least, I left him overnight with the food, I put a small box as a hide in the food container in case he was shy, I left him in the dark with the food in case it was me he was afraid of,
I mean i wiggle the rat, normaly he'd strike at it in a split second, i wouldn't even have it close to him yet, he'd steal it with such strength and coil around it and devour in minutes..
he's normally a good eater.
I don't remember if i tried the broth. I think i didn't.
(my memory fails me sometimes)
I will try to feed him probably in the next few days, and i will try the broth and see if he would.

The vet also suggested if i can (which i might not be) get a freshly killed rat. Not forzen yet.
 
A lot of the typical signs of allergies are not going to be visible with a serpent. These include redness, inflammation/swelling, hives, and itchiness. Does he rub on stuff a lot? do the areas with the strongest scale issues ever seem "puffy"?
 
Shiari said:
A lot of the typical signs of allergies are not going to be visible with a serpent. These include redness, inflammation/swelling, hives, and itchiness. Does he rub on stuff a lot? do the areas with the strongest scale issues ever seem "puffy"?
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No it doesnt.... at least i think so.
 
Hi CW. I'm glad you updated us, but sorry to hear it's not better news.

Just keep working with your vet, and try not to stress too much (I know it's hard). It sounds like it's going to be a bit of a waiting game to see if the treatments work, and you're going to drive yourself crazy with worry which isn't good for your own health.

You've gotten some good responses here, and your vet has given you a course of action to try, so you're doing everything in your power for your little guy. You're a good snake mom, and he knows that.

Keep us updated on his progress hun.
*hugs*
 
Cursed_Witch said:
I think I'm going to go with the person who suggested plastic allergy.
It kind of makes sense because this whole thing started shortly after I got him a new plastic water bowl.
But does anybody know the symptoms of plastic allergy. Im trying to google it and i found nothing so far.
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Cursed_Witch said:
I asked him about plastic allergy, he said, it might as well be that.
When I told him that there is a chance that this all started when i got the bowl, he told me to change it and get a ceramic one. He has heard of plastic allergy with other animals but never seen a snake one yet.
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Here's ArpeggioAngel's user page. I know she's seen a plastic allergy firsthand, and should be able to answer your questions about symptoms.

danielle said:
if there has been a plastic plant in there a year a plastic allergy would be weird, but is there anyway your water bowl also had latex in it. I am highly allergic to latex i know there will be jokes but its no laughing matter. I can't even wear latex gloves without a reaction so I would check that to be sure.
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It could have been even a different type of plastic, too. The plant could have been one type, the bowl another. Or, because the bowl holds his water, the plastic is actually getting into his system, causing the reaction. :shrugs: just a thought.
 
Cursed_Witch said:
I have tried those, I sliced, I made a whole in the skull too (this has worked before) I also change sizes of the foods to see if he would try at least, I left him overnight with the food, I put a small box as a hide in the food container in case he was shy, I left him in the dark with the food in case it was me he was afraid of,
I mean i wiggle the rat, normaly he'd strike at it in a split second, i wouldn't even have it close to him yet, he'd steal it with such strength and coil around it and devour in minutes..
he's normally a good eater.
I don't remember if i tried the broth. I think i didn't.
(my memory fails me sometimes)
I will try to feed him probably in the next few days, and i will try the broth and see if he would.

The vet also suggested if i can (which i might not be) get a freshly killed rat. Not forzen yet.
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Keep doing the slicing. You have other options too, you can warm the mouse in chicken broth or scent it with chicken blood...some people even have success when dipping it in tuna water prior to feeding.

I wouldnt offer him a mouse every day though. Offer, leave him with it long enough and then dont do it again for a few days.

My male doesnt go off his food but he is still young.....maybe its 'that time' for him.
 
JustineNYC said:
Keep doing the slicing. You have other options too, you can warm the mouse in chicken broth or scent it with chicken blood...some people even have success when dipping it in tuna water prior to feeding.

I wouldnt offer him a mouse every day though. Offer, leave him with it long enough and then dont do it again for a few days.

My male doesnt go off his food but he is still young.....maybe its 'that time' for him.
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Oh no I haven't been trying that often.
I only try on sundays or mondays. So it's once a week. Those are his normal feeding days.
That's why i said Ill try in the next few days, Sunday perhaps.

Thank you for all the suggestions Justine. I appreciate spend the time to post here today.
 
Well, that is pretty strange...

I don't know what it is, either. I have seen SOMETHING kind of like that a few times over the years. But the ones I have seen seemed like they were caused by physical scale damage, such as crawling on a very rough surface. I remember back when we used a couple of 8' Burmese pythons to do photos with people back in the 70s and 80s, if we had a really busy weekend with too much handling, one of the snakes occasionally looked like that. But if we rested them, they would recover with the next shed. But if there is an underlying infection, that would be a different story.

Did the vet say there was any reason to avoid Betadine wash? If it is a fungus, Betadine seems to be very good against many types. And it doesn't seem to have any bad down side. See if the vet has any reason to use or not use it.

Many snakes do go off feed for a month or two or more during winter, or during spring breeding season. So that may or may not be relevant to the problem. But as you say, eating might hasten shedding. However, I have found that snakes with damaged skin (for any reason) normally go into one shed after another until the problem is fixed.

Other than different anti-fungals and antibiotic meds that your vet might want to try, and of course, keeping the snake well hydrated with great husbandry, I am not sure what else to suggest. I think that until it sheds and you see the results, it may not be possible to properly evaluate its condition.

On the plus side, the photos made the snake look much better than I expected from the description you gave. I have seen far worse resulting just from too much handling and rough surfaces. If it looks better after the next shed, I wouldn't worry. But if it looks worse after the shed, then you might have to ask your herp vet to try to consult via phone or email with some other herp vets who might have seen something like this before.

Wish I could be of more help.

Good luck!
 
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