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sunglow or not?? help

Even without looking at the picture, if it has white around the saddles it is NOT a sunglow.

Sunglows are bred to have *no* white around the saddles as well as extremely vibrants reds and oranges.

This is my almost-sunglow. He's got the tiniest smidge too much white, but the colors are perfect.

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Should sunglows have little to no white on their bellies?
I got this "sunglow" on friday:
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He's from the same supplier I got my Hypo(???) from so i'm doubting if he is a sunglow lol.
 
just because you got a hypo from him doesnt mean he doesnt have sunglows? i fail to understand the relevance of that.

cant help on the morph im still learning myself
 
lovehatepassion said:
just because you got a hypo from him doesnt mean he doesnt have sunglows? i fail to understand the relevance of that.

cant help on the morph im still learning myself
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They're saying it's the same person they got a hypo from that they think might not be a hypo, so it's entirely possible that the "sunglow" was mislabeled as well.
 
Whether it is hypo or heavily het for hypo does not necessarily make it a sunglow.
AFAIK a sunglow is lacking white on top/sides. There should be no white at all on the top/sides. I have a couple that have 3-7 flecks of white on top. Nearly sunglows, but not quite. Some sunglows are not hypo at all, but have no white on top of them either. Though I kind of like the hypo ones because they are more glossy.
 
It is not just the lack of white that makes a Sunglow.
Not only does a Sunglow lack white (dorsally), it must also be vibrantly colored.
Note: They may, or may not be, Hypo... Not all Sunglows are Hypo and not all Hypo Amels are Sunglows.
 
Not to hijack this thread, but my Firefly is very brilliant and she might have three scales that have some white on them. I've been assuming she's a sunglow. Does a sunglow have to be completely white-free (on top and sides) to be a "sunglow?" Thanks!
 
http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/sunglow/

I have an Amel, from a Sunglow female, that has little white, & in talking with DonS., (I sent pics), due to her bright coloring & very reduced amount of white, he said he would call her a Sunglow.

So I say that no, it does not have to be completely free of white to be considered a Sunglow. I do agree that Sunglow's have the brighter coloring than regular Amels.
 
She's a little mis colored in this pic she's much brighter then it shows. The lighting when I was taking this pic messed it all up.
 
I'd put that as too much white for a sunglow, personally. And while lovely, she doesn't quite have the vibrancy that a good sunglow should have.
 
An amel. Sunglow is nothing but an amel bred for super vibrant colors, and very little to no white.
 
Shiari said:
An amel. Sunglow is nothing but an amel bred for super vibrant colors, and very little to no white.
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I would have to agree with this as well. While certainly very nice looking, it just has a tad too much white to really be considered a Sunglow in my opinion. Like many things in this hobby, at some point things can stop being one thing and begin to be something else, so at some finite point things are called "whatever" it may be. But when things are right at the crossroads of the two, it all comes down to personal judgement calls...

To the OP,....there are COUNTLESS snakes out there in the hobby that have even more white than yours does, and folks might (and do) call them "sunglows", but it really doesn't mean this would be the more accurate descriptive term for it.

It's a nice looking snake, and either way it would be an amelanistic corn anyway... :)


cheers, ~Doug
 
Ok thanks that make a lot of since. And yeah its a really pretty snake. We seen it and jus had to get it. It's so much bigger then our other ones. Our first group of corner are jus bearly reaching the year point and they are still small yet long but still skinny. We love our snakes tho. Just hope they get bigger soon. Lol
 
corngurl2011 said:
Ok thanks that make a lot of since. And yeah its a really pretty snake. We seen it and jus had to get it. It's so much bigger then our other ones. Our first group of corner are jus bearly reaching the year point and they are still small yet long but still skinny. We love our snakes tho. Just hope they get bigger soon. Lol
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Yeah, they'll get bigger alright, just be sure to keep in mind to feed them slightly larger meals as they grow that always put a decent noticeable bulge in their mid-section every 4 to 5 days or so and make sure they can get their lower body surface on one end only of the enclosure into the low-mid 80's for proper digestion, and they will do real well. Alot of people sort of get used to feeding the same sized rodents to tiny snakes, and as they grow sometimes tend to keep them basically at the same sized meal for too long.


best of luck with the nice corn! ;)



~Doug
 
We are feeding them about a med-med large fuzzies the two that you can really notice it is the two smaller ones we have. The others you can tell they have eaten. But the two little ones look huge sometimes. They never come out so we only feed them once every two weeks. At the end of that second week they usually know its feeding day. Do you think we should feed every week instead?
 
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