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White House Blaming the Shutdown on....

tsst said:
How bout the individual partaking?
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But heaven forbid someone takes responsibility for their actions these days?! Didn't you know it's someone else's fault for my fortunes and/or misfortunes?

This is why I have my OWN health insurance, car insurance, renter's insurance. It's MY responsibility to CMA, as well as my wife's and vice versa, if the unfortunate happens! Un- or under-insured motorist hits me, I'm covered because I took responsibility for MY actions.
 
Nova_C said:
Every government establishes a minimum standard of living in a country. We're disagreeing on where that minimum standard lies. I say it includes the necessities of life. You say it does not. Charity is something different.
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I said no such thing. You seem to enjoy an air of superiority while suggesting others aren't as compassionate as you, but there's nothing compassionate about spending other people's money. While on the topic of minimum standards; the average welfare recipient in the United States has air conditioning, cable or satellite TV, a vehicle, a personal computer and a video gaming system. That isn't to suggest they live in the lap of luxury, the vast majority on welfare surely struggle to make ends meet. But the actual picture isn't exactly the tent cities in Grapes of Wrath that some would lead you to believe -just as it isn't fat, lazy people living in homes nicer than my own pumping out kids all day as others believe.

The Affordable Healthcare Act is particularly bad for young people who don't often go to the doctor, but my issue with socialized medicine is less about who pays for it than the power it gives government and takes away from the individual. In a private system, if you are obese, smoke, or have other health problems, you pay higher premiums. With blanket coverage, we all share the costs of your unhealthy lifestyle. This gives the government the incentive to "force" lifestyle changes. For example, in New York, Bloomberg is still pushing a ban on sodas over 12 ounces.

The medical and insurance industries are definitely broken. My default position is to look towards free-market reforms, but admittedly, that is difficult in an industry this powerful. In the end, a lot of things just jump out at me in this Republican health care plan of Obama's. People stand to lose their jobs or have hours reduced. Healthy people will be charged more. Many of us will pay for things we don't want. But worst of all, I believe it will make people more dependent.
 
HerpsOfNM said:
But heaven forbid someone takes responsibility for their actions these days?! Didn't you know it's someone else's fault for my fortunes and/or misfortunes?

This is why I have my OWN health insurance, car insurance, renter's insurance. It's MY responsibility to CMA, as well as my wife's and vice versa, if the unfortunate happens! Un- or under-insured motorist hits me, I'm covered because I took responsibility for MY actions.
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So what you're saying is that the people who are getting shafted by the ACA have only themselves to blame? Good to know. I agree.
 
If the average cut was 5%, I wonder why hers were cut so dramatically?
 
The only responsibility the government is supposed to have is protecting the people from evil doers. Can't give proof texts cause I have been forbidden to do so.
 
Nova_C said:
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/north-carolina-single-mom-sara-grier-hit-968-food-stamp-cut-must-feeds-4-kids-16-month#
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Where's hubby/daddy?
Is she divorced?
Are all 4 children out of wedlock?
Why is she a single mother?
Did hubby/daddy die?
Is he a deadbeat?
Is she owed child support, alimony, life insurance, etc.?

In other words, why is she and her children in the scenario they are in?

This article lacked the 5 W's and 1 H....

Nova_C said:
So what you're saying is that the people who are getting shafted by the ACA have only themselves to blame? Good to know. I agree.
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That's putting words in my mouth. The people getting shafted are me, the middleclass, and/or others that chose to take personal responsibility in life instead of milking the system or waiting for it to head the direction it is. Again, why do I have to pay for someone else's inadequacies?

You seem to not comprehend this simple thing?
 
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The latest news on Obama care is all the healthy young people (who voted for him) aren't signing up (wonder why) and most of the people interested in it are over 50, many with pre-existing conditions. Guess what will happen to the cost?$?$?
 
Honestly I find it funny that Obama is claiming this as his invention, when Romney instituted something similar in his state a while before Obama even brought up "universal healthcare"..
 
Just a comment that I read on FB, it was about some upcoming elections where a Libertarian candidate is available as an alternative to the "elite" Democrats and Republicans.

Greetings from the Czech Republic, I wish a lot of luck to your party, our libertarian party had this elections 2,41% and last elections it was only 0,74%. More and more people around the world are voting for libertarians. I like America but what those Democrats are doing to your country.... there are no solutions such as big government or progressive taxation... Our country used to be the communistic one so I can tell you that this left-side decisions are always bad.

Please America, come back and restore freedom

your friend from the Czech Republic
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Wait, I thought this was the "law of the land". At least that is what every MSM outlet was preaching when Sen. Cruz tried to get a delay of the individual mandate. But when Obama needs to alter "the law of the land" it's an 'administrative fix'?!?! Wonder why an 'administrative fix' just for 2014?!?! Could it be to help dems during the election cycle? Corruption and hypocrisy!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...fix-president-to-address-concerns-at-1135-am/
 
Nanci said:
The latest news on Obama care is all the healthy young people (who voted for him) aren't signing up (wonder why) and most of the people interested in it are over 50, many with pre-existing conditions. Guess what will happen to the cost?$?$?
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How come no one in Washington DC was smart enough to figure this out?
 
OMG, I read this thread when I first registered and I swore I would not respond, I never discuss religion or politics with anyone as its an opinion and will eventually cause issues.
Our President is weak, he lacks balls, If Reagan or Clinton were in office they would have banged their fist on the desk and told congress that no one is going home until this is all fixed. Ask a republican and hell say that the Democrats shut down our Government, ask a Democrat and they will claim its the Republicans that closed our Government. Personally speaking, there's only one guy that even a bigger DB than John Boehner and that's the Ted Cruz, OMG what an big mouth nada they both are. We need to fire them all, send every single one packing, get rid of the political parties as they are not needed any longer. Bring in fresh younger folks with open minds and get a president in that once wore jeans and work boots for living, one that knows how to balance a checkbook would be helpful. After giving 26 years of my time in the ARMY with 6 years in IRAQ I'm now a civilian Government employee, one that gets paid by the hour and wears work boots and a hard hat for a living, I haven't received a cost of living increase since 2006, I was furloughed all spring and summer, lost my house, came back to work for 11 days just to be shutdown for another 2 weeks. So stick that in your pipe, you don't have to agree with me, but its my opinion. I've lived it first hand. The republicans are just as much to blame as the Democrats, there is not a innocent one in the lot !
 
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