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Will Obama take credit for the census jobs?
- Thread starter KJUN
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starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
Even though I am no fan of the current administration, I say OF COURSE they will use the upswing in employment due to the census to their advantage....ANY administration will do whatever it takes to make themselves look good, and this one is no exception.
And at this point, this bunch needs to take credit for ANYTHING they can!
And at this point, this bunch needs to take credit for ANYTHING they can!
tyflier
[Insert Witty Commentary]
Truth be known, I imagine that no matter who was in office, the current administration would take credit for it under the current conditions. It's called Public Relations, and at a time like this in our country, a President would be foolish NOT to credit for it.
Personally I don't have a problem with it. So far, Obama has been blamed for a multitude of problems that existed before he ever set foot in office. Why should he not get credit for "solutions" that were long in place as well? And this is true of 99% of newly elected Presidents. The nature of the job is to fix the previous administrations' mistakes.
I recall a recent President taking credit for victory in a war we are still fighting, so I guess it wouldn't be so bad if Obama took credit for a handful of jobs that will really help some people out...:sidestep:
mike17l
Self-Admitted Duckoholic
Sure they will take credit for it, but they do not deserve the credit.
tyflier
[Insert Witty Commentary]
Presidents throughout history have taken both credit and flak for a great number of things that they neither did nor deserve. Why this particular situation is so different as to warrant a topic and poll of it's own is beyond me... :shrugs:
Unless...:flames:
KJUN
New member
OK, I'll ask you to support that statement concerning the census. Name on administration that has ever used census jobs to claim they decreased unemployment....as in "SOLVING" the larger problem.
Not that I disagree with you in principle AT ALL, but I think IF this is done, it will be the first time....I think. I haven't seen evidence to the contrary, but I would love to be corrected if I am wrong.
tyflier
[Insert Witty Commentary]
I know of only one President that has ever taken credit for winning a victory in a war that the country is still fighting. And that certainly seems to be a much more substantial mis-representation of one's accomplishments that a few census jobs.
Not only that, Obama has yet to take credit for this, so...why the "hysteria" over the possiblity that he might take credit for creating jobs? Couldn't you wait until he actually does it before you start pitching a fit about it? :shrugs:
starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
I have no evidence, this is just an opinion.
But if you were on this administration, wouldn't YOU want to do anything you can to try to look good to the American public? I know I would! (Not that Obama would hire me, I am the wrong kind for this particular administration)
It may well be undeserved credit, but especially now with the recession and unemployment as it is, who wouldnt want to look as good as possible?
tyflier
[Insert Witty Commentary]
Again, KJUN, this is all assuming that there is more intention behind this thread than a simple way of...:flames: And at this stage, there certainly doesn't seem to BE much more of a point...
It's tough to get mad a guy for something he didn't do yet, isn't it?:shrugs:
It's tough to get mad a guy for something he didn't do yet, isn't it?:shrugs:
LBoz
Original Curmudgeon
Chris, I hardly see a simple poll as "pitching a fit." I for one can see both sides of the argument, but it does seem that Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth much of the time. Sure, I think he'll take credit, but I wish he'd do something a little more substantial during his term other than make promises he can't/won't keep.
mike17l
Self-Admitted Duckoholic
Apparently it was a good enough topic to warrant a response from you.
mike17l
Self-Admitted Duckoholic
You and me both.
Again with "both" as the only choices.
We are NOT limited to two choices. You don't have to pick one mammal to represent you over another.
Pick the man, not the party. Pick the issue, not the sponsor. Quit blaming your lack of approval on only having two choices.
If you don't like either the republicans or democrats, pick another group or, better yet, just stand up for what YOU think is right.
Of course that would entail actually accepting responsibility FOR your choice.
All those people who are blaming Obama for everything are idiots. All those who think he's the cure for everything are delusional.
He may well be able to get us going in the right direction but what makes anyone think he'd be able to do so without a stumble or two? Or without the help of many others?
He's better than that last douche that held the office though, there is no doubt about that.
tyflier
[Insert Witty Commentary]
AMEN!!
Mike--
I responded the thread because I have an opinion. My opinion is that should Obama's PR people decide that this would be a good opportunity for him, it would be no different than any other PR opportunity that has been exploited by every other President throughout American History.
I ask why create a thread because it isn't anything new, it isn't anything worth being "upset" or "disappointed" over, and it isn't something that hasn't been done innumerable times in the past. So, what's the big deal? Why not create a thread about every broken promise or misplaced credit/accusation throughout American Political History?
It seems to me that IF Obama takes credit(and that is still a big IF), it certainly would NOT be the biggest or most substantial indiscretion of this exact nature. So why is this the one that gets started as a poll?
You couple that with the poll options and it seems to me that the primary reason for the thread is :flames:...
LBoz-
I know a poll isn't "pitching a fit". But this thread is started based on the assumption that someone will do something...much like the Indoctrination thread, the ObamaCare thread, and the other political threads that get started with little intent other than to incite anger and instigate argument...to get a "rise" out of people...
