Interesting video.......

[Ricky87]

My bad, Nova, you did say that and I should have given you your due credit. You were one of the people who was questioning my honesty, but maybe after these last few posts you've finally seen the truth. As for "tsst" with the "???" post. I think it's odd you put those quotes. If I was going to create a new profile to make me appear older, you would think I would have chosen an age that's a little more than 2 years older?. 23 is still less than half of the persons age, and I wasn't about to ask my big brother to put a fake age on his profile. Especially not when he was willing to share his insight. Clearly I was just making a point, and my Dave already said his piece, and very kindly I might add, so believe what you want, but if you still think I lied than the joke really is on you!.

 

[tsst]

.... As for "tsst" with the "???" post. I think it's odd you put those quotes. ...

The first quote, which was chronologically the latter post, you said "I still don't get why you would think I would create another identity to try and fool you, when I've been nothing but honest". The second quote, which was a chronological predecessor to the first quote, you said "Maybe I should just create a new profile and lie about my age next time". You eluded to at least having the thought. Given that you openly expressed the thought compounded with the IP data posted by Rich why would you think it is so hard to get that someone would think along those lines?
I had to add the ????? because the site requires so many characters for a post. I did not intend to add comment as I thought what you had said yourself was clear enough to answer your question.

.... so believe what you want, but if you still think I lied than the joke really is on you!.

Glad I could be of amusement to you.

 

[tom e]

Talk about interesting videos! They both have a future in comedy.. Anyone seen this?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/39636/msnbc-decision-08-mccain-and-obama-joke-around

 

[jpccusa]

Let me let you in on a little bit about me, okay guys. My name is David A Szymkiewicz, I am 23 years old, and my little brothers are in fact Ricky and Michael. Pretending that I don't exist is not of my concern, and I would hope people of your age would have better things to do other than harrass 2 twenty year olds about their history. I wasn't even going to get involved in this, and I told both of them to find a new site to post under, but I could tell by passing by their computer that their was a lot of filth being passed around. If you come to your senses, I would be glad to tell you a bit about me, though this will probably be one of the few times I am willing to share my experiences with people who don't know what fresh air is!. I was an English major at UNH before I transfered to Brown University to get my PHD in Sociology. This Fall I will be enlisting in the Peace Corps, along with my 3 cousins, so undermining me and my brothers is rude and very dis-respectful. My brothers father lost his life serving this great country, and would be very proud of the very great young men they've become. Both of them are wise beyond their years, and if I didn't love them so very much I would have them join me this fall. As for you inquiring about physical proof of a slave plantation turned directly into a prison, that was me informing him earlier this afternoon about that, and the prison is Angola State prison, in Louisianna, and was the last plantation in the state of Loisianna. As far as being an honest Obama supporter Nova C, I would like to hear about what you've done for his campaign. This past summer me and 16 other schoolmates did work directly for his campaign, and my little brother Michael was their to assist me over his computer every step of the way. I'm proud of his suppport, and Mr.Obama would be as well. Very few young people have taken interest like he has, and none of you could say anything that could ever change how I feel about him. I hope I get to return to them soon, and I'm sad at the lack of understanding that you people have shown him. I don't blame him for not getting into his life story, and I tell him all the time what a great inspiration he is for the rest of us. I really do hope this will be the last time that his words get mocked, and for all of your sake I can only say that it's people like you that have made me realize why other peoples of the world find us Americans to be over-privileged. My first tour will be in South America, and from their I will try to do a tour in the Middle-East, and I hope some of you will find the heart to join me. If you want to really help your country than message me, or my brothers, and I will see to it personally that I connect you with an organization, like the Peace Corps, that will be glad to entertain your service. May god be with you all, and I wish the best for you and your families, as I know you would for mine!.

First off, I'm SO glad I have a brother who cares enough to go to bat for me. Thanks Dave. As for me making "attacks", no, they weren't attacks, and I've tried on many posts to clarify my stance, but none of you wanted to listen to those posts. My history, integrity, and honesty have all come into question, and Rich actually thought he could try and call me out by saying my brother and I were actually Dave. Too bad you were SO very far off. I still don't get why you would think I would create another identity to try and fool you, when I've been nothing but honest with how I feel in the first place. Maybe you, and Drizzt, and Nova C, and everyone else thought it was a lie, but in hindsight I find it troubling that you would believe something so strongly and harrass me for it. I've been nothing, but honest, and I hope these posts about me lying about my big brother DO continue, because it makes your entire point look incredibly weak. Especially to those of us who happen to know the truth. None of you have taken aim at the racial profiling comments, the asian jokes, and those incredibly dis-honest videos, but if you find it more entertaining to insult me, than I suppose theirs nothing I can do about it in the first place. And Cassie K, on a side note I never said "at least I watch all the debates" as a slight against you. I said it as a statement that even though I dis-like McCain, I still hear his views, and when he says things I can get with, I totally listen. I hope my brother gave you all the info you wanted on the jail/plantation that you wanted, and maybe it will enlighten you to how the prison system really runs. I also advise you to learn about Sean Bell as well, because everytime you scoff at racial profiling you hurt the wife, family, and children he left behind. My advice would be to watch "My Two Cents" on BETJ, and maybe you will understand views from a non-white perspective. Thats all I'm going to say, and I hope you got all the info you needed from me and my brothers!.

This is SO lame!

 

[jpccusa]

Darn it! One busy day at work and look all I missed.

I wanted to point out how Michael, Ricky87 and Celtics have the exact same style of posting... A long block of text.

I guess all the 3 went to the same school?!?! :roflmao:

 

[SnakesRule1234]

Talk about interesting videos! They both have a future in comedy.. Anyone seen this?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/39636/msnbc-decision-08-mccain-and-obama-joke-around

Ha, that was great. I think it's nice to see that they both respect each other...

 

[jpccusa]

I think you missed my point. I'm not talking about why one race commits more crime than another or what their heritage is that makes them more likely to commit a crime. I'm talking about racial profiling... will someone be more leery of a race that's statistically more likely to commit a crime than another race? How can you blame them if they are? The numbers don't lie.

When I was your age I had my bags checked by security at the airport back when it was uncommon and people approached me with drugs all the time. Was it because I was white... no... it was because I had long hair and fit the profile.

The impression I am getting is that you find racial profiling inevitable. Am I wrong? Independently if it is inevitable or not, do you find it wrong to profile a person based on race?

 

[Ricky87]

Talk about interesting videos! They both have a future in comedy.. Anyone seen this?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/39636/msnbc-decision-08-mccain-and-obama-joke-around

Absolutely beautiful video, Tom. This exactly the kind of video this site should be pumping. I thought they were both sincere, and I'm not going to lie, I loved how McCain mentioned that part about the significance of having an African-American in the White House. His Messiah joke was hilarious as well!. Barack Obama to me was absolutely funny with his speech. "My only weakness is that I may be too awesome", that one had me laughing for ten minutes straight. So did his comments about being born on Krypton. That was, in my opinion, the first time they've genuinely shown respect towards one another, and I do feel it will create common ground, and a relationship between them, even when the other one wins. By the way, I read your rep, and from now on I promise to keep my posts based purely on my beliefs, and I am not even going to respond to some of the people who are clearly being antagonists. Seeing someone put out a video like this does make me realize that I don't have to feel pressured to speak out as much, and I want to say thank you for putting this out to the public!.

 

[VinnyJ]

if you still think I lied than the joke really is on you!.

Ricky, Michael, Celtic or whoever you really are... I'm going to call like I see it... you're just a flat out liar and nothing you say can be taken seriously! You're older brother just happened to sign up here yesterday, make 3 posts 2 minutes apart from each other before deciding to join this thread. As noted by JP you all have the same writing style... oh and same IP. LIAR!!! Hope I'm wrong... but doubt it.

You're young and naive. Live a little, make enough money that it matters what tax bracket you're in, loose some money because of the economy, own a house, sell a house.... then come back and give us an informed opinion. You don't learn everything in books... or from your imaginary brother.

 

[Ricky87]

Ricky, Michael, Celtic or whoever you really are... I'm going to call like I see it... you're just a flat out liar and nothing you say can be taken seriously! You're older brother just happened to sign up here yesterday, make 3 posts 2 minutes apart from each other before deciding to join this thread. As noted by JP you all have the same writing style... oh and same IP. LIAR!!! Hope I'm wrong... but doubt it.

You're young and naive. Live a little, make enough money that it matters what tax bracket you're in, loose some money because of the economy, own a house, sell a house.... then come back and give us an informed opinion. You don't learn everything in books... or from your imaginary brother.

You want truth, you got it. I'm not going to worry about what a select few think, because I have so much more important things to do, other than have you think your calling out a liar. Young and naive is beyond far from the truth, and you want honesty; god knows my heart is pure, and un-like you I don't fear judgement when my time is up. I've seen more than your sheltered eyes could imagine, and I have been told by hundreds of people in my life that they are so impressed with who I am, and what I stand for. I fear not what you think, because you will live thinking your ideas of racial prejudice are justified. You just vilify me, because you think that you have someone against the ropes, and you think belittling me as a person will actually justify your views. People like you are a dime a dozen, and your opinions are as ignorant and destructive as the legal system you pretend is just. I can tell from your views that you are not a seeker of truth, and I could put everything I own that I speak from the heart, and I do not lie. I may dramatize my views, but never to the extent where I manipulate, and never would I waste my time running around to create false ideas to win my cause. I don't need to lie to tell you that your full of insecurity and lies. No-ones rushing to my defense, and Tom is the only person in this forum who I can believe is truly trying to create discussion in the interest of peace. Not once have I heard you speak your views on the two videos in question, and I know exactly why!. It's easy to reject what someone else says as fact, and it allows you a free pass at maintaining your status on this topic, while never bringing any intelligence to the table that is of your own creation. To call me young and naive says so much more of your inabilty to reason than it could ever say about my lack of experience in this world. I watch the debates, I hear the speaches, I speak my views, I apoligize if I truly feel I was out of line, and I am always open to an "open-minded" view of another person, such as the truly informative video sent in by Tom E. You've not once spoken for John McCain, or Barack Obama, so the only reason your on this site is because your the type of person who thinks that when you criticize someone elses views it makes you feel better about who you are. My criticisms only come when I feel a person, or persons, are creating false propaganda to dis-suade "on the fence" people into fighting for their malicious causes. You wanted proof of a slave plantation that was turned immediately into a prison, and you got it!. I knew thats not what you really wanted in the first place, because if truth was your motive than the first two videos on this site would have floored you as well. As for those who think a few emoticons can tell your emotions for you, suffice it to say that your lack of emotion has drawn you to simplifying your views with select characters, and abbreviations. I at least possess the ability to elaborate on my thoughts, and that alone gives me more of a voice than you have, and makes me less prone to the attraction to propaganda in the first place. I'll keep posting on this site as long as I'm afforded the oppurtunity, and I hope my rep to posts ratio speaks to my true stature as far as this site is concerned. I look to hearing what Tom thinks, and thats it!. Maybe I will agree, and maybe I won't, but I know Tom's opinion is his own, and that alone is worth respecting!.

 

[Drizzt80]

You truly don't get it. Everything you say goes directly against what you do, and, well, say. :shrugs:

You say this:

because I have so much more important things to do,

, But then you ramble on forever with virtually nothing new to say.

You say this:

I do not lie. I may dramatize my views, but never to the extent where I manipulate, and never would I waste my time running around to create false ideas to win my cause.

, yet you did this:

The average annual white persons income is around 50,000$ dollars, whereas the average annual black persons income is around 8,000$.

and this:

and it's sad a 23 year old knows more about honesty, integrity, politics, and leadership, than any of you McCain supporters. . . . I hate having to be a 23 year old telling people who are 30+ the difference between right and wrong.

when your profile clearly states you're 21.

No-ones rushing to my defense,

:sobstory: Noone's rushing to your defense because your credibility is shot with your lying and deception.

Not once have I heard you speak your views on the two videos in question, and I know exactly why!

I do too!! It's the United States of American where a persons still has the right to keep their political views private!! Imagine that!!!

It's easy to reject what someone else says as fact,

It's even easier when it's """facts""" that you're sharing with us!

so the only reason your on this site is because your the type of person who thinks that when you criticize someone elses views it makes you feel better about who you are.

Actually, I think the only reason he's on this site is that he loves cornsnakes. Just a guess though. :shrugs:

My criticisms only come when I feel a person, or persons, are creating false propaganda to dis-suade "on the fence" people into fighting for their malicious causes.

Which is exactly what you are doing, and yet are upset that you are getting criticized . . . with your own words, which is funnier yet!

You wanted proof of a slave plantation that was turned immediately into a prison, and you got it!

I wanted proof of your white/black income numbers and never got it. I'm offended.

As for those who think a few emoticons can tell your emotions for you, suffice it to say that your lack of emotion

FYI, this just in, breaking news . . . emoticons are there TO express emotion. Nice try!

I at least possess the ability to elaborate on my thoughts, . . . and makes me less prone to the attraction to propaganda in the first place.

Sorry, you don't and haven't, and quite honestly are now the poster-child for progaganda . . . at least for the next 20 internet minutes.

I look to hearing what Tom thinks, and thats it!

Now that's open minded!! :crazy01:

It's been fun, but you really lost your appeal quite fast. I thought you'd changed . . . I can admit when I'm wrong. :cheers:
D80

 

[Nova_C]

...god knows my heart is pure, and un-like you I don't fear judgement when my time is up.

(I know Ricky's post isn't directed at me, but I'm going to respond anyway.)

That's quite a claim. How do you know this?

I've seen more than your sheltered eyes could imagine, and I have been told by hundreds of people in my life that they are so impressed with who I am, and what I stand for. I fear not what you think, because you will live thinking your ideas of racial prejudice are justified. You just vilify me, because you think that you have someone against the ropes, and you think belittling me as a person will actually justify your views. People like you are a dime a dozen, and your opinions are as ignorant and destructive as the legal system you pretend is just.

I feel the exact same way about you.

...I may dramatize my views, but never to the extent where I manipulate, and never would I waste my time running around to create false ideas to win my cause.

You mean other than the entire duration of this thread where you've done nothing but insult, mischaracterize, berate and belittle others? You haven't presented a single claim that you can back up with a citation. Or, at least you haven't bothered to back them up, which is effectively the same thing. Your posts have the fanatical quality of a zealot.

No-ones rushing to my defense...

Really? So then the other two accounts tied to your IP really are you creating false identities? That's cool, at least we've cleared that up.

...so the only reason your on this site is because your the type of person who thinks that when you criticize someone elses views it makes you feel better about who you are.

Funny, I was feeling the same about you.

My criticisms only come when I feel a person, or persons, are creating false propaganda to dis-suade "on the fence" people into fighting for their malicious causes.

Except you criticized the hell out of my supposed support of McCain and hatred of Obama when that was a completely false view of me that you created.

I at least possess the ability to elaborate on my thoughts, and that alone gives me more of a voice than you have, and makes me less prone to the attraction to propaganda in the first place.

I have yet to see any proof of this.

...I hope my rep to posts ratio speaks to my true stature as far as this site is concerned.

You keep bringing this up as if it matters. You really want to unzip and compare the size of our reputations? Who really cares, especially considering you've effectively admitted you sock puppeted two other accounts, which calls into question the source of this mighty reputation.

 

[michael couture]

I think this debate has steered far off course. I have posted a few times, and except for my first post may have gotten carried away. This discussion has been marred by attacks on both sides, and rather than continuing with more I'll just restart the thread from this page. My brother is 21, I usually read his posts, and questioned why he put 23 at first. I think he was responding to someone 46 and used 23 to back up the half the age point. But I'm unclear exactly why, but I assure it was a typo.
I have also recieved quite a few attacks simply based on the fact that people are categorizing Ricky/Michael/Celtic as the same person, which I can guarantee is false. Just read earlier posts, perhaps the intro thread, and you will see that we are in fact brothers. I have a majority of the snakes, and initially joined because I loved the posts and pics of corn snakes I haven't found on the web. I met some great people, and even alot of people disagreeing here were quite helpful. So I ask to please drop this, if it takes some apologies you got it. I'm sorry for overreacting to a difference of opinion, and I'm sorry that some people were truly offended.
My brother is a good person and I know in person there would never be this type of disagreement about his character. I think it comes down to a slight over reaction, and then going on the defensive after he felt he had to defend his opinion. I know that both my brother and I are open minded, if these posts don't reflect that than it's a lesson learned, because I'm sure some of you have felt offended.
I think this is a great oppurtunity for everyone to swallow their pride, including us, and grow from this disagreement. I really wanted to quote the "spoiled brat" part, and all of the other ways in which I felt offended. But at the end of the day I really don't care who thinks what about me, and I will take the comments as someone else feeling compelled to defend themself just as I feel.
I tried to keep this unbias with my first post, but then misunderstood the "politically ignorant blacks" statement. But forked tung and I reached an understanding, and that was that. Then in between with my brother posting, and this discussion heating up, I decided to respond again (bad timing). I felt that the posts about racial profiling was a bit too condescending, but I learned I will never change anyones mind with posting so I guess another lesson was learned.
Nova C I'm not sure why you got so upset with my posts, unless you still consider Ricky/Michael the same person. Youn said that I called white people ignorant, which I corrected your misunderstanding, yet you still keep quoting it? I stated that understanding what it means to be a minority and racially profiled is impossible, due to the fact that being white makes us blind/ignorant to understanding.
My comment about your avatar may have been a bit out of touch, I was just trying to use an example of how you might get a diffent impression of someone, other than what's presented.
Please nobody quote this and take it out of context, I'm really just trying to come to common ground. I think we were all misunderstood, and NOBODY is innocent of making attacks. And again please don't quote with a question of how others were guilty, we all were.
As for Rich, it would be wrong to categorize any opinions as an "Obama supporter", or "Mcain supporter". Obama has been amazing at letting things slide, and he is an example of how to keep your cool when you're under attack. This debate has gone astray in more ways than one, so I think it's too far gone to be a reflection of anybodies true feelings. Emotions have driven this thread and will continue to if we don't just start fresh.
I'll start by saying that "roast" last night was great. I loved to see both candidates let their guard down enough to kid about their characterizations. Mcain was a great sport, and made some hilarious puns, as was Obama. I think last night should symbolize the tone these topics should take, then it's never taken out of context.
I have to take a hyatis from this forum for a little while, so I will not be reading or responding further to this thread. When I come back I hope to see some more relevent discussions, and maybe a new morph or two, wishful thinking. I may disagree with alot of the polotics and moral debates on this forum, but I have unconditionally appreciated the information that most of you have most generously shared about your snakes. I will post some progression threads of my two Bloodreds in a few days, maybe that can start a new beginning of sharing helpful non-controvercial information, unless people have bias against certain morphs.
Good luck to everyones collections, can't wait for this storm to just blow over!!!

 

[Rich in KY]

Michael, one thing that may help with the trust issue about your identity is if you can post a pic of you and your brothers together.

If people can see proof that all of you are real, then they can focus on what is being said and take you a little more seriously.

Just my opinion. I have no dog in this race.

 

[Drizzt80]

And you?!?! Hah!! You've already state numerous times how you're done with this thread, yet you come back on here and repost the same drivel, in the same format, with the same lack of sentence structure, as your """"brother"""".

I have also recieved quite a few attacks simply based on the fact that people are categorizing Ricky/Michael/Celtic as the same person, which I can guarantee is false.

Really?! You're going to guarantee that for us?! And just what is your guarantee worth at this point? Your word? You mean the same word that doesn't tell the story straight? Seriously? I read messages all the time. I read RA Salvatore and have a nick named after Drizzt Do'Urden. Just because it's written in print doesn't make dark elves living underground real . . . or does it?!

I think it comes down to a slight over reaction, and then going on the defensive after he felt he had to defend his opinion.

I think it comes down to the typical young punk spouting his "words of wisdom" who, when asked to verify, can't and won't because he's too proud. But that's just my educated opinion.

I know that both my brother and I are open minded

Really?!? Cause I've already disproved that theory. (And I notice the lack of an "s" on the end of brother . . . interesting!)

I really don't care who thinks what about me,

Yes you do because you keep coming back trying to smooth things over for your """brother""" after saying you're done with this thread. It's a classic "good cop, bad cop" maneuver.

Please nobody quote this and take it out of context, I'm really just trying to come to common ground.

I never quote anything with the intent to take it out of context. They're your words. You and your brother(s) spoke them. :shrugs:

I have to take a hyatis from this forum for a little while, so I will not be reading or responding further to this thread.

Sounds familiar . . . see ya in a few.

When I come back I hope to see some more relevent discussions, and maybe a new morph or two, wishful thinking. I may disagree with alot of the polotics and moral debates on this forum,

Am I missing something here?!?! I don't believe I've seen/read a single instance where this thread has boiled over into any other threads . . .hmmm??!!? Just curious.

Michael, one thing that may help with the trust issue about your identity is if you can post a pic of you and your brothers together.

Great idea, but at this point, it won't do anything for me. With all the other fabrications/half-truths, what's a picture or two?? I'm just sayin'. :shrugs:

D80

 

[VinnyJ]

You want truth, you got it.

I don't need to lie

You've already proved you're a liar... do you need more than the quotes above.

Young and naive is beyond far from the truth, and you want honesty; god knows my heart is pure, and un-like you I don't fear judgement when my time is up.

I'm not worried about judgement day... god and I have close relationship but thanks for trying to belittle me.

I've seen more than your sheltered eyes could imagine, and I have been told by hundreds of people in my life that they are so impressed with who I am, and what I stand for. I fear not what you think, because you will live thinking your ideas of racial prejudice are justified.

Just like me... you have no idea what my eyes have seen.

You just vilify me, because you think that you have someone against the ropes, and you think belittling me as a person will actually justify your views.

Against the ropes?... you threw yourself out of the ring with your first disrespectful post.

People like you are a dime a dozen, and your opinions are as ignorant and destructive as the legal system you pretend is just.

You are just FULL of assumptions. Saying my opinion is ignorant doesn't make it so. I'm not a big fan of our legal system, I support capital punishment full heartedly, I'm pro choice, I believe in f. How's that for an opinion!

I can tell from your views that you are not a seeker of truth, and I could put everything I own that I speak from the heart, and I do not lie. I may dramatize my views, but never to the extent where I manipulate, and never would I waste my time running around to create false ideas to win my cause.

I love the truth. Bring some in to the conversation. Please have facts with sources and not your dramatized opinion.

I don't need to lie to tell you that your full of insecurity and lies.

Ricky Michael Celtic!!! Are you trying to belittle me?

No-ones rushing to my defense, and Tom is the only person in this forum who I can believe is truly trying to create discussion in the interest of peace.

I have a lot of respect for Tom's opinion and look forward to reading his posts

Not once have I heard you speak your views on the two videos in question

You don't like the first video? I didn't see anything wrong with it unless you have some links or proof that it isn't true. Where's your proof? I have an open mind IF you have facts to back up that it's not true. Prove it!... and not with your "arrongant" opinion or "propaganda" either.

It's easy to reject what someone else says as fact, and it allows you a free pass at maintaining your status on this topic, while never bringing any intelligence to the table that is of your own creation.

Welcome to the public forums youngin... if you state your opinion I have every right to say I don't agree with you or reject what you say for what ever reason I want.

To call me young and naive says so much more of your inabilty to reason than it could ever say about my lack of experience in this world.

Your lack of experience in the world directly affects how you see the candidates. When California govenor Gray Davis tried to tripple auto registration I was directly affected. Would lack experience work better for you?

I watch the debates, I hear the speaches, I speak my views, I apoligize if I truly feel I was out of line, and I am always open to an "open-minded" view of another person, such as the truly informative video sent in by Tom E.

Yeah... I've watched many debates, speeches and TV promisses too. They always do what they say they're going to.

You've not once spoken for John McCain, or Barack Obama

I don't support Obama and not because he's black or democratic... because I think McCain stands for most of the same things I do. Like many others I wish there was a different choice though.

the only reason your on this site is because your the type of person who thinks that when you criticize someone elses views it makes you feel better about who you are.

I'm on this site because I like cornsnakes. If I wanted to deal with this bull all day I'd go to a political forum.

My criticisms only come when I feel a person, or persons, are creating false propaganda to dis-suade "on the fence" people into fighting for their malicious causes.

I haven't seen any false propaganda yet. You haven't provided any facts that any of it's false. The second video... you don't think there's people who would have voted for Hiliary just because she's a woman? You don't think there are black people that are going to vote for Obama just because he's black. Maybe not the majority but there will be some. If they're black and vote for Obama simply because he's black then they are "politically ignorant blacks" and the same applies to white people that vote for McCain based on color.

You wanted proof of a slave plantation that was turned immediately into a prison, and you got it!.

I never asked for proof of a slave plantation. That was your attempt at changing the topic from prison stats to why certain races are more prone to crime.

I knew thats not what you really wanted in the first place, because if truth was your motive than the first two videos on this site would have floored you as well.

Like I said... if you have some truth and can back it up with facts then bring it. Facts... not your "brothers/stepbrother".

As for those who think a few emoticons can tell your emotions for you, suffice it to say that your lack of emotion has drawn you to simplifying your views with select characters, and abbreviations. I at least possess the ability to elaborate on my thoughts, and that alone gives me more of a voice than you have, and makes me less prone to the attraction to propaganda in the first place.

You have no more voice than I do Ricky Michael... you only get one vote and you haven't changed anyones mind! I'm smiling while I write this because I know how political issues got under my skin when I was your age. You're just as passionate as you are disrespectful.

I'll keep posting on this site as long as I'm afforded the oppurtunity, and I hope my rep to posts ratio speaks to my true stature as far as this site is concerned.

Oh my bad... I didn't know you had so much rep. That changes everything.

I look to hearing what Tom thinks, and thats it!. Maybe I will agree, and maybe I won't, but I know Tom's opinion is his own, and that alone is worth respecting!.

I agree with you... I respect Tom's opinion too. You however brought no respect in here. These aren't just other cornsnake owners... many of these people are my friends.

 

[jpccusa]

I must admit it... You guys KNOW how to exterminate trolls!!! :bowdown:

I guess it's all the years of experience being part of forums...(if combined are like 60 or something) :sidestep:

I'm taking my hat out for you Brent, Nova C, and Vinny!

And good suggestion there Rich in KY, but I doubt we will ever see that picture. (And I REALLY hope to swallow these words)

 

[jpccusa]

:-offtopic

And Michael Couture, I was really impressed by the drawings you posted here: http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?p=703150#post703150

Unfortunately, now I doubt they were made by you. Unfortunately your "brother" brought to you a lot of proofing to do. You could always ask him to give you a hand, taking pictures of the progression of one of the drawings, with you in it, of course.

I guess "he" would not mind, since "he" has caused such a headache for all the "siblings" registered here. :cheers:

 

[Ricky87]

:-offtopic

And Michael Couture, I was really impressed by the drawings you posted here: http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?p=703150#post703150

Unfortunately, now I doubt they were made by you. Unfortunately your "brother" brought to you a lot of proofing to do. You could always ask him to give you a hand, taking pictures of the progression of one of the drawings, with you in it, of course.

I guess "he" would not mind, since "he" has caused such a headache for all the "siblings" registered here. :cheers:

OK, now you are just getting weaker and weaker and weaker. My brother is extraordinarily talented, and as far as those being his, I'm sure the person who paid 400$ for a painting of mine that isn't half as good as those drawings believes they are very real, and he's heard from world renowned artists, yes WORLD RENOWNED, that no-one, I repeat, NO-ONE has exhibited talent like his and especially at that age. THAT is ir-refutable. God gave him that gift along with the gift to eloquently express himself, which was evidently not given to you, because god knows my brother is strong enough to use his gift to propel others, along with his abilities in SO many other things. Your words mean absolutely nothing to him and I hope, for your sake, you do some soul searching. He was more than wise in his post, and I am just reading it for the first time, while he's in bed, just smiling that I'm so blessed to have someone so gifted in my family, as I witness the potential for ignorance that most of you have succumb to. As far as providing a picture, I'll stick with you just not believing me, because I wouldn't lie to god for the likes of you, so I damn well don't care if you believe me. That is the truth, so the next time your in a quiet room, and you feel like examining the world laid out at your feet, ask yourself "why do I deserve to inherit a world so great, when all I can provide for it is to criticize and accuse an honest person of being any less than what he claims to be?". This doesn't apply to me anymore, because you will inevitably encounter these problems throughout your life, that I can gaurantee. I know this will strike a cord with all of you who internally know, regardless of what you choose to ignore, that your lives have become so insignificant that this thread has become your version of Christmas. Finding a new post has become the equivalent of a really big box under the tree. Ignore me, write me off as a liar, do whatever, because at the end of the day this thread is a lesson to me. Not from you, but from god, because it has shown me to really appreciate that I do have it made with the family and friends I have, and that no matter how mad I may get sometimes, I should always be thankful that I'm alive and am surrounded by people who truly care that I don't turn out like you. As far as I'm concerned, these posts are a non-issue for me, and the fifteen minutes I'm spending to type this is meditation for me to realize their are people who are attracted to the negative, regardless of how great life is, and my only goal in typing this is to show you there are other ways to behave. You will never break my spirit, or my brothers, no matter how important this is for you right now, and I hope your behavior isn't indicative to a trend passed on generationally through your own families that you have been un-able to buck. It get's no realer than that, and I know it bothers you, but I can't help that. Thats just your own inner conflict, and for some reason I'm just the representation of the hate that lies within you. If any of you have been humbled by this then I would be more than glad to resolve this, because at the end of the day my heart is filled with peace, and I don't mind starting fresh. Otherwise, continue where you left off, and disect every bit of what I'm saying a little more. Whatever it takes for you to feel satisfied, but don't grow old with this bitterness, it will only destroy you!. That I promise. And by the way, don't expect some violin playing emoticon to characterize how this post affects you, because it is much deeper than that, and I know thats going to be your first reaction. I'm not Nostradamus, but I can predict how someone who is unsure of their own selves would react to something they can't comprehend. At least be original and ask yourself why it bothers you so much, because I know your primitive instinct is to tell yourself that I am somehow lost in my own non-reality. Again, you won't fool me, and I know deep down you are confused. You could be special, but for now this is just a potential lesson learned for you, and unless you accept with humility, you will never accomplish what it is that you sulk about when no-one else is around. We all want more, but only a few deserve it, so do try and deserve it. Don't expect the world when you are unable to look inside and ask yourself why it is that you are special enough to deserve it. "Happiness is not acquired, and you won't find it for sale", so do try harder!. Thats all I'm going to say!!!.

 

[jenneses]

OK, now you are just getting weaker and weaker and weaker. My brother is extraordinarily talented, and as far as those being his, I'm sure the person who paid 400$ for a painting of mine that isn't half as good as those drawings believes they are very real, and he's heard from world renowned artists, yes WORLD RENOWNED, that no-one, I repeat, NO-ONE has exhibited talent like his and especially at that age. THAT is ir-refutable. God gave him that gift along with the gift to eloquently express himself, which was evidently not given to you, because god knows my brother is strong enough to use his gift to propel others, along with his abilities in SO many other things. Your words mean absolutely nothing to him and I hope, for your sake, you do some soul searching. He was more than wise in his post, and I am just reading it for the first time, while he's in bed, just smiling that I'm so blessed to have someone so gifted in my family, as I witness the potential for ignorance that most of you have succumb to. As far as providing a picture, I'll stick with you just not believing me, because I wouldn't lie to god for the likes of you, so I damn well don't care if you believe me. That is the truth, so the next time your in a quiet room, and you feel like examining the world laid out at your feet, ask yourself "why do I deserve to inherit a world so great, when all I can provide for it is to criticize and accuse an honest person of being any less than what he claims to be?". This doesn't apply to me anymore, because you will inevitably encounter these problems throughout your life, that I can gaurantee. I know this will strike a cord with all of you who internally know, regardless of what you choose to ignore, that your lives have become so insignificant that this thread has become your version of Christmas. Finding a new post has become the equivalent of a really big box under the tree. Ignore me, write me off as a liar, do whatever, because at the end of the day this thread is a lesson to me. Not from you, but from god, because it has shown me to really appreciate that I do have it made with the family and friends I have, and that no matter how mad I may get sometimes, I should always be thankful that I'm alive and am surrounded by people who truly care that I don't turn out like you. As far as I'm concerned, these posts are a non-issue for me, and the fifteen minutes I'm spending to type this is meditation for me to realize their are people who are attracted to the negative, regardless of how great life is, and my only goal in typing this is to show you there are other ways to behave. You will never break my spirit, or my brothers, no matter how important this is for you right now, and I hope your behavior isn't indicative to a trend passed on generationally through your own families that you have been un-able to buck. It get's no realer than that, and I know it bothers you, but I can't help that. Thats just your own inner conflict, and for some reason I'm just the representation of the hate that lies within you. If any of you have been humbled by this then I would be more than glad to resolve this, because at the end of the day my heart is filled with peace, and I don't mind starting fresh. Otherwise, continue where you left off, and disect every bit of what I'm saying a little more. Whatever it takes for you to feel satisfied, but don't grow old with this bitterness, it will only destroy you!. That I promise. And by the way, don't expect some violin playing emoticon to characterize how this post affects you, because it is much deeper than that, and I know thats going to be your first reaction. I'm not Nostradamus, but I can predict how someone who is unsure of their own selves would react to something they can't comprehend. At least be original and ask yourself why it bothers you so much, because I know your primitive instinct is to tell yourself that I am somehow lost in my own non-reality. Again, you won't fool me, and I know deep down you are confused. You could be special, but for now this is just a potential lesson learned for you, and unless you accept with humility, you will never accomplish what it is that you sulk about when no-one else is around. We all want more, but only a few deserve it, so do try and deserve it. Don't expect the world when you are unable to look inside and ask yourself why it is that you are special enough to deserve it. "Happiness is not acquired, and you won't find it for sale", so do try harder!. Thats all I'm going to say!!!.

I don't know whether you three people or one and I don't care. I also don't care that you're an Obama supporter (if it weren't for you, I'd be proud to admit I was, but your ignorant responses have made me ashamed to be associated with you in anyway in this thread.)

What I do care about is is the fact that you don't know what a paragraph is! Please use them. They help portray your "eloquence". The non-structure you utilize in your posts is detrimental in proving how intelligent YOU feel you are, and is also helping to prove to others your ignorance.

Oh, by the way, artistic genius' is displayed early in childhood, read an art history book rather than pulling crap out of your bum. Your brother at 21 or 23, unless he was drawing successfully in diapers, is not the first artist to display talent early. And honestly, while a very talented illustrator, he isn't Frank Godwin, Heinrich Klay or Bob Hines.