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adotion home study + reptiles = ? fail ?

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big chris

Chris & Jamie
Ok I know some of you don't like my views on cohabbing but I need some real help and advice so please don't let your opinions on me cloud this thread and please help even if your not my biggest fan.

We are looking to adopt and have our 1st home study coming up. Will it be a problem that we have the 3 corns and 3 beardies ? I mean they are a part of our family as much as my 12 year old lab. It never even crossed our mind that it would be a issue but someone brought it up this weekend. Ofcourse this family member would prefer they were gone anyways so their judgment is clouded on this situation.

The snakes are in a locked exo terra tank with a combination pad lock. The beardies are just in a tank do we need to get a locking tank for them to or will it not matter will we be fighting a up hill battle whether they are locked in or not, or does it probably not matter because its not a issue ? I mean another big lockable tank is going to cost a couple hundred bucks and we are in a huge saving mode for adoption fees I mean it won't break us but if its not necessary we would prefer to keep the money put back.

Thanks for the help and advice
 
If you absolutely refuse to do what is best for your animals, you should not be thinking of having kids.....that is what it comes down to.
 
Agreed with starsevol. I am extremely pro-adopt though. I think if you explain that they are in no way dangerous, venomous, invasive, and that you practice good hygiene around them at all times they shouldn't have a problem, if they are reasonable. Child-proofing the enclosures is an absolute must, though.

But once again, starsevol brings up a good point. I assume you've been warned on the dangers of cohabitation but do it anyway. This lack of respect for life and refusing to accept the wisdom of others does not bode well for being a parent. You really have to face the facts and admit that you ARE putting the very lives of your pets you supposedly consider "family" at risk by cohabbing. To refuse this would be to refuse the hundreds of documented cases of it going wrong, the advice of thousands of casual snake keepers and experts alike, and the documented behavior of these animals in the wild.

There is a reason people will judge you when they hear you cohab even though you've been warned not to. I do not know you personally, so I cannot say for certain, but from the facts given to me you're ready to put lives at risk for convenience. I do admire anyone willing to adopt so I'm a bit torn here.
 
I'm sorry, but I agree with starsevol. If you refuse to take proper care of your snakes, how are you going to take proper care of another human? As for reptiles being a problem, I've read somewhere before that exotic pets are a huge no-no when it comes to adopting.
 
Well the corn snakes aren't exotics, alicat. Perhaps if its explained that beardies are one or the most common reptiles kept as pets specifically because of their handleability, ease of care, and gentle nature they'll be more understanding.
 
Thanks for not letting your opinions on cohabbing get into this discussion. Bethany you have a clouded and some what twisted point of view you are rude.
 
I am not sure how your co-habbing issues will affect your passing your first home visit or not. I am sure you won't have to give up your reptiles but you will have to prove that they are secure and away from little fingers. So I would makes sure that they are up on shelves out of reach of kids pulling on tanks or unable to unlock them. My parents did foster care and we never had a problem having reptiles but I am in AZ to.

Like everyone stated about co-habbing I am going to have to agree. 3 snakes to 1 tank is a lot and since it is a locking tank I am assuming it is a 20 gal and that just isn't going to get you space wise very long. They are really going to start suffering if they aren't already.
 
big chris said:
Thanks for not letting your opinions on cohabbing get into this discussion. Bethany you have a clouded and some what twisted point of view you are rude.
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Call me whatever you want, but I speak the truth.

If taking proper care of a snake is too much for you to handle, you don't need a child.
 
Get separate tanks for the snakes. For the beardies, if they're that concerned you can just get a simple mesh lid for it as they can't climb the glass. I would also designate a "snake room" that will have a door that you can lock that the child will be unable to open. If you explain that not only are these snakes small, non-venomous and generally harmless but the child will be unable to gain access to them on their own that it will not be an issue.
 
If you can afford to pay adoption fees, I don't understand why you can't go to a thrift store and get two more 20 gal aquariums to keep your snakes in a better environment. It would show a great deal of responsibility and provide you an opportunity to demonstrate your knowledge of reptile care to the inspectors. I think they would be more impressed if you could explain why you have reptiles and go into detailed care instructions than if you were just shaking in your boots, hoping that they won't judge your choice of pets. A well spoken, knowledgable person always makes a better impression in these situations.

My best friend is adopted. Her adoptive parents were very square, very normal people and I wish they hadn't been able to adopt her because she was 180 degrees different. She has a snake, guns, horses, etc. now, but was never understood by her adoptive parents.

I wish you luck on adopting, but I wish you would make better choices in animal care that will prove to the inspectors that you are a great reptile owner, not just someone with snakes and lizards.
 
If you can't care for animals properly, kids are going to be interesting. Co-habbing is one of those things that I never understand. I had a woman call about buying some snakes she was going to spend $400, but was co-habbing all of her animals. She didn't end up buying. If you're going to spend $400, but house your snakes together there's something wrong. Your snakes don't like their environment. They don't like being forced to be in close quarters. What you're doing is making your animals suffer and not giving them their optimal care. How can you just neglect their care? What's your grounds for that? I just don't understand some people.
 
I saw it, and then found the thread. I sometimes have over 100 snakes in my snake room, and the never get co-habbed. I just don't see why anyone has a reason to co-hab.
 
Carinata said:
There are so many suitible alternatives. Cage dividers, sweater boxes, deli cups, etc. I just think some people don't want to accept the fact they're wrong.
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Ignorance plus stubbornness is a deadly combination, for any living thing unlucky enough to have it's life controlled by someone so afflicted.
 
VickyChaiTea said:
Well the corn snakes aren't exotics, alicat. Perhaps if its explained that beardies are one or the most common reptiles kept as pets specifically because of their handleability, ease of care, and gentle nature they'll be more understanding.
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Reptiles of all sorts are considered to be exotic pets. Corns or not.
 
big chris said:

We are looking to adopt and have our 1st home study coming up. Will it be a problem that we have the 3 corns and 3 beardies ? I mean they are a part of our family as much as my 12 year old lab. It never even crossed our mind that it would be a issue but someone brought it up this weekend. Ofcourse this family member would prefer they were gone anyways so their judgment is clouded on this situation.

The snakes are in a locked exo terra tank with a combination pad lock.
The beardies are just in a tankdo we need to get a locking tank for them to or will it not matter will we be fighting a up hill battle whether they are locked in or not, or does it probably not matter because its not a issue ? I mean another big lockable tank is going to cost a couple hundred bucks and we are in a huge saving mode for adoption fees I mean it won't break us but if its not necessary we would prefer to keep the money put back.

Thanks for the help and advice
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Nanci, this says to me that all 3 of his beardies are co habbed as well.
 
Pet owners not taking 100% ideal care of their pets is something I see each and every day. And I'll bet that at some point, a majority of the members screaming about the horrors of cohabitation of snakes have not been taking 100% ideal care of their other pet(s). How many people allow their cats to go outdoors? Not ideal as there are many dangers outside that can kill a cat...hit by a car and other accidents, diseases from other cats, etc. How many people vaccinate their pets against everything they can (FIV, Lyme disease, canine flu, at least 4 strains of leptospirosis, coronovirus, etc)? Do you have all your pets on heartworm prevention (dogs and cats) year round and never ever miss a dose? How about flea and tick control? Does your dog ever run loose or go to a dog park to potentially catch all sorts of diseases and parasite, let alone the potential to get into a fight because I don't care how sweet your dog is, it can potentially take an instant dislike to another pet and start a fight? Is your dog obedience trained well enough that it is under complete control at all times? Is your cat declawed (Oh, the debate that one could be)? Are all your other pets spayed or neutered? What about the food you feed your other pets? Is it premium, mid-grade or cheap generic? What treats and toys do your other pets chew and play with? Did you know how dangerous rawhide can be? Have you any idea just what any pet can chew and potentially swallow that can potentially cause a serious medical issue? I've witnessed my vet take squeakers, string, ribbon, sticks, rocks, underwear, rawhide, metal spoons, flip-flops and stuff that couldn't even be identified out of the inside of both dogs and cats. Shall I continue?

So go ahead, continue to treat those that cohab as if they are the worst kind of scum on the planet. You don't have to agree with them, and they don't have to agree with you. Just be aware that someone may just do the same kind of harassment and discriminatory posting about you that you are doing to them simply because they are in the majority and believe their way is right.
 
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