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Change from frozen to live

GarethUnsworth

GarethUnsworth

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Hi, my friend has a male jungle corn that is a couple years old. For most of its life it has been fed F/T mice. However, my friend wants to change to live mice. We have tried putting the snake (piglette) in with a live mouse and it almost seems like its scared of it. One time out of the two times the snake did kill the mouse but then didnt eat it.

Any theories?
 
GarethUnsworth said:
Hi, my friend has a male jungle corn that is a couple years old. For most of its life it has been fed F/T mice. However, my friend wants to change to live mice. We have tried putting the snake (piglette) in with a live mouse and it almost seems like its scared of it. One time out of the two times the snake did kill the mouse but then didnt eat it.

Any theories?
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So let me get this straight....
your friend has an adult jungle that has grown and thrived on f/t mice.
So, for no good reason at all he wants to change to live, risking parasites, and bites and scratches from a terrified rodent that can feel pain and fear like any other living thing.

Aside from risking the health and welfare of his snake (his PET that is depending on him to keep it healthy and safe), and aside from needlessly torturing a small animal for no good reason, oh yes, sounds just fine to me.....
 
Yeah, I agree with Robbiescornfield. If you don't care about doing it the humane way, Why would you even want to stress the snake out? That's sad. If its doing fine in F/T then leave it be.
 
I Agree!!! :)

starsevol said:
So let me get this straight....
your friend has an adult jungle that has grown and thrived on f/t mice.
So, for no good reason at all he wants to change to live, risking parasites, and bites and scratches from a terrified rodent that can feel pain and fear like any other living thing.

Aside from risking the health and welfare of his snake (his PET that is depending on him to keep it healthy and safe), and aside from needlessly torturing a small animal for no good reason, oh yes, sounds just fine to me.....
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I don't see a reason to change from f/t to live. Unless your friend just wants to get some kind of sick thrill from watching a snake kill a live rodent. Too many risks to the snake and not very nice for the mouse.
 
I agree why switch. Now if you are feeding live cause you are breeding the mice then pre kill them before you put in the tub you never want to feed live the mouse can injure your snake in seconds. If its not broken dont fix it!!!
 
Speaking from experience, I feed live and my snake DID get bitten a week ago. I watched it happen. The bites aren't serious, but I got lucky.

So its up to your friend if he thinks the sick thrill is worth taking a risk you'd probably never recover from (if you really love your pet)
 
7legion77 said:
Speaking from experience, I feed live and my snake DID get bitten a week ago. I watched it happen. The bites aren't serious, but I got lucky.

So its up to your friend if he thinks the sick thrill is worth taking a risk you'd probably never recover from (if you really love your pet)
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... I think my brain just broke. Aren't you the same person who tossed a live finch in with your snake?
 
With feeding live, there's never a problem 'til there's a problem, and watching your pet get an avoidable injury makes no sense at all to me, personally. Nor does having to treat avoidable internal parasites. Why do you and your friend want to feed live to an established F/T feeder? For the thrill?
For the snake, there's no benefit at all and a great potential for harm. A cornered mouse can take out an eye if the snake doesn't get the timing of the strike and coil right. Ever been bitten by a mouse? Their teeth are surprisingly long and will leave puncture wounds with a high risk of infection.
 
RobbiesCornField said:
... I think my brain just broke. Aren't you the same person who tossed a live finch in with your snake?
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Robs, that was Lavender, he did it in front of his kids to "show them man's dominance over God's creatures" or something like that. He managed to get himself banned from here after causing some discord between me and one of my really good friends (that was not why he was banned, it was just some damage he did along the way). We patched it up though and I am glad of that.

Legion is....well....another one.
 
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starsevol said:
Robs, that was Lavender, he did it in front of his kids to "show them man's dominance over God'd creatures" or something like that. He managed to get himself banned from here after causing some discord between me and one of my really good friends (that was not why he was banned, it was just some damage he did along the way). We patched it up though and I am glad of that.

Legion is....well....another one.
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Ya sure?
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1439636&postcount=6
 
Ugh, you are right. But I think Lavender did it as well.
Absolutely disgusting, "people" like this give this whole hobby a black eye.
Turns my stomach that I am the same species as someone who could do that.
 
Even if you are feeding live for sick kicks why not cure your morbid fascination by obtaining a live mouse and Prekilling it for your snake? your snake remains safe and you still get to experience the death of a small creature. These are pet snakes in an enclosed environment it is not the same as a wild snake scenario.
 
nocturnalheaven said:
Even if you are feeding live for sick kicks why not cure your morbid fascination by obtaining a live mouse and Prekilling it for your snake? your snake remains safe and you still get to experience the death of a small creature. These are pet snakes in an enclosed environment it is not the same as a wild snake scenario.
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Of course you know that is how serial killers get started. Most of them get their kicks from killing small animals and then move up as they get desensitized and need a bigger thrill.
 
Yes, I was thinking that I was typing.... mental stability of the care taker is.... Concerning. Especially after reading the bird post. Why would you even think to do that?
 
nocturnalheaven said:
Yes, I was thinking that I was typing.... mental stability of the care taker is.... Concerning. Especially after reading the bird post. Why would you even think to do that?
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Some people should be spayed or neutered and their caretaking limited to pet rocks. They just never evolved from the days when Christians were thrown to the lions for sport.
Sad but true.
 
wow I did not know this would be such a strong topic. I feed my snake live, for no particular reason its just what I started. However, I am now considering the switch the opposite way. I have also shared your feelings with my friend.
 
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