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Diesel "The Misfit" My Pitbull

Tula_Montage said:
Does the breeder get a qualified vet to crop the ears and follow the "proceedure" properly? Or does this breeder just do it his or her self? If so, I would seriously reconsider buying your next dog from a butcher.
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You've GOT to be joking. Yes, they go to vet. *eyeroll*
 
sinisterserpents1 said:
OK people, I promise I'll never make the same mistake by starting a picture thread again just so people can come out of the wood works to give their negative opinions. It would have been different if I started this thread and asked for "your opinion" on ear cropping, but I did not ask. I just wanted to show my new baby to my friends on CS.

So please let this debate go and continue this thread as it was meant to be.

Like someone said earlier, there is already a thread up about ear cropping. Go vent there where its meant to be done and please leave this one alone. It would be greatly appreciated.
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See that, way to go guys. Awesome job for putting someone down.
 
Tula_Montage said:
Well that is something at least... Unexpected.
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You really have zero experience with ear cropping huh? You think that in the states we just cut the ears off with scissors! :rofl::rofl::rofl: You do, don't you?

Listen, it's not like that. The VAST majority of ear crops are done by vets here. It's considered cruelty to do without anesthetic and people are prosecuted for it on the rare occasions that it happens.

Anyone who knew me for like 5 minutes would also know that I would never to go to some two bit idiot breeding dogs and cropping their ears on table in his backyard shed.
 
Thanks to everyone who commented on Diesel. Now that this thread has gone to hell and I won't call YOU out for making it that way, I'm done here. And BTW a picture thread shouldn't even have "diversions" in it. And I didn't tell you to take it somewhere else, I said please take it elsewhere else.
 
Emily1188 said:
You really have zero experience with ear cropping huh? You think that in the states we just cut the ears off with scissors! :rofl::rofl::rofl: You do, don't you?

Listen, it's not like that. The VAST majority of ear crops are done by vets here. It's considered cruelty to do without anesthetic and people are prosecuted for it on the rare occasions that it happens.

Anyone who knew me for like 5 minutes would also know that I would never to go to some two bit idiot breeding dogs and cropping their ears on table in his backyard shed.
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It's REALLY not as uncommon as you would think. I volunteer at a local (private) dog rescue. We have had botched ear crops and tail docks quite a few times, and in one instance, the ears had to be completely removed due to a horrific infection. All because someone wanted their dog to have that "look".

The only thing I can say is that luckily it is legal in the US to crop ears etc, otherwise there would be many MANY more dogs in the sorry state I have seen. Personally... though experience.
 
Tula_Montage said:
It's REALLY not as uncommon as you would think. I volunteer at a local (private) dog rescue. We have had botched ear crops and tail docks quite a few times, and in one instance, the ears had to be completely removed due to a horrific infection. All because someone wanted their dog to have that "look".

The only thing I can say is that luckily it is legal in the US to crop ears etc, otherwise there would be many MANY more dogs in the sorry state I have seen. Personally... though experience.
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Yeah, that's because it's illegal there, so the only people still doing it are the people who wouldn't have done it right in the first place. Here, it's VERY rare, and like I said, often makes headlines. So when addressing those planning on cropping dogs in the US, please bear that in mind.

Thankfully, we have the option of having the procedure performed properly.
 
I don't know if thankfully is the word I'd use, but it reduces the risk of infection/pain/suffering of the dogs to have it done by a trained medical professional. Although you do add the risk of complications under anesthesia to young dogs...
 
Tula_Montage said:
I don't know if thankfully is the word I'd use, but it reduces the risk of infection/pain/suffering of the dogs to have it done by a trained medical professional. Although you do add the risk of complications under anesthesia to young dogs...
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Well it's certainly the word I use...
 
I love the picture where he's stretched out asleep on the armchair...either that chair is MAHOOSIVE or he's itty bitty!
 
raynefyre said:
Also, those things only work with smaller dogs with thin nails. I have two husky/lab mixes and it didn't even put a dent in their nails. After a packet of batteries was used up we threw it away and got regular clippers. It's more for the daintier breeds. Just so you know.
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Just so you know that is my cousin and best friend. I was picking on them and their cute dog. They know what I meant. I was just over there Saturday night playing with Diesel and getting clawed (I loved it).
 
Emily1188 said:
Yeah, that's because it's illegal there, so the only people still doing it are the people who wouldn't have done it right in the first place. Here, it's VERY rare, and like I said, often makes headlines. So when addressing those planning on cropping dogs in the US, please bear that in mind.

Thankfully, we have the option of having the procedure performed properly.
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I hate to tell you but people take scissors to their dogs ears alot here! Look at the fighting dogs. It is not an uncommon practice in the U.S. for people to do it themselves. All for looks!!! They look just fine w/ floppy ears the way they were intended to look or else they wouldn't be born that way. I have tried to stay off of this subject but I am tired of miss information.
 
I just wanted to say no matter what your intent is when you open a thread there is always the chance that people will comment about every aspect of it. For example, if someone post pics of cohabbing or feeding on bedding just to show off their corns and ends up in a discussion about those issues. People have opinions and they are bound to come out one way or another. It happens to all of us.

Cropping is your choice, I'm just happy to know that you took Diesel to a vet to have it done. Hopefully he got doped up on meds too. :p

CrousesCorns said:
Just so you know that is my cousin and best friend. I was picking on them and their cute dog. They know what I meant. I was just over there Saturday night playing with Diesel and getting clawed (I loved it).
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Haha! My dogs do that to my friends and family too. That's why we got the pedipaw. Too bad our dogs have nails like Xmen's wolverine.
 
sinisterserpents1 said:
Yeah I didn't really want his ears done. I preferred his tail docked, because that thing is a weapon!!! But my hubby wanted them done. And it has been one heck of a job trying to keep them posted. We took them off early, but they look good.

I just got the cutest pic of him and my olde english bulldogge. I have to post them up! Forgive me lol

See at first Santana (the bulldogge) hated Diesel, because she was no longer the baby, but she's starting to come around as you can see.:)
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Cute pics!!
 
sinisterserpents1 said:
Yes, of course, we had his ears cropped properly at a vets.

I have a pedi paws, thank you very much Chris Crouse :p, and it works on my bulldogge. Mine plugs into a wall outlet though. It doesn't run off of batteries, and I love it..
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We have one too and every time we grab the box the cat takes off running!
 
kshannon said:
I hate to tell you but people take scissors to their dogs ears alot here! Look at the fighting dogs. It is not an uncommon practice in the U.S. for people to do it themselves. All for looks!!! They look just fine w/ floppy ears the way they were intended to look or else they wouldn't be born that way. I have tried to stay off of this subject but I am tired of miss information.
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There's SO much wrong this...

1.) Just an FYI, serious dog fighters do not generally crop their dogs' ears. Read some of the literature by Colby and check out some of the old pit champions. You learn a little (or a lot) about the breed too (speaking of misinformation).

Now, punk kids street fighting their "pitt bullz"? Sure. But punk kids are punk kids are punk kids. Idiots will be idiots.

2.) "They look just fine w/ floppy ears the way they were intended to look or else they wouldn't be born that way. "

There are several inherent problems with this statement. The first is that dogs were not "designed by God" nor shaped by natural selection. They are designed by humans. Ergo, no, they are not "supposed" to have floppy ears (in fact, floppy ears are the more unnatural type as opposed to erect; no wild canines have drop ears). There is nothing inherently more unnatural about a cropped ear compared to a drop ear, and there is nothing inherently more functional.

Consider my fav breed, the Dogo Argentino. At birth the ears are heavy drop ears, but the founders of breed cropped them short to prevent damage from large game like boar and puma. Therefore, the Dogo is designed to and supposed to have cropped ears - like it or not. Big floppy ears are not in the realm of "supposed to have" at all.
 
Emily1188 said:
Consider my fav breed, the Dogo Argentino. At birth the ears are heavy drop ears, but the founders of breed cropped them short to prevent damage from large game like boar and puma. Therefore, the Dogo is designed to and supposed to have cropped ears - like it or not. Big floppy ears are not in the realm of "supposed to have" at all.
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This is a logical reason to crop -- to prevent injury from large game! I object to cropping just for "looks" because it exposes the dog to pain & risk of infection, and why expose a puppy to these unnecessarily. But if a dog is bred for hunting large game where floppy ears are a risk, and the dog MIGHT (please note I am not saying only people who hunt their dogs should crop) be at risk for those injuries, then cropping actually REDUCES risk to the dog and makes perfect sense. Thanks for explaining why the Dogo is cropped!
 
Emily1188 said:
There's SO much wrong this...

1.) Just an FYI, serious dog fighters do not generally crop their dogs' ears. Read some of the literature by Colby and check out some of the old pit champions. You learn a little (or a lot) about the breed too (speaking of misinformation).

Now, punk kids street fighting their "pitt bullz"? Sure. But punk kids are punk kids are punk kids. Idiots will be idiots.

2.) "They look just fine w/ floppy ears the way they were intended to look or else they wouldn't be born that way. "

There are several inherent problems with this statement. The first is that dogs were not "designed by God" nor shaped by natural selection. They are designed by humans. Ergo, no, they are not "supposed" to have floppy ears (in fact, floppy ears are the more unnatural type as opposed to erect; no wild canines have drop ears). There is nothing inherently more unnatural about a cropped ear compared to a drop ear, and there is nothing inherently more functional.

Consider my fav breed, the Dogo Argentino. At birth the ears are heavy drop ears, but the founders of breed cropped them short to prevent damage from large game like boar and puma. Therefore, the Dogo is designed to and supposed to have cropped ears - like it or not. Big floppy ears are not in the realm of "supposed to have" at all.
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Why would I go read about dog fighting when I think anybody that is into that should be thrown in a pit have gas thrown on them and for someone to light a match!

I am not going to fight over what is my opinion that I think ear cropping is cruel and unnecesary because people thinks it makes their dogs look tough or cool.

And no there isn't anything wrong with what I said in my previous posts, go work in an animal shelter for a year.
 
kshannon said:
Why would I go read about dog fighting when I think anybody that is into that should be thrown in a pit have gas thrown on them and for someone to light a match!

I am not going to fight over what is my opinion that I think ear cropping is cruel and unnecesary because people thinks it makes their dogs look tough or cool.

And no there isn't anything wrong with what I said in my previous posts, go work in an animal shelter for a year.
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Well, personally, I like to know a lot about something before I decided to light people on fire... but to each his own, I guess. LOL. There was something wrong with your post, which I proceeded to point out. YOU were pushing forth misinformation.

The last half of your post was based on extremely faulty logic. If you think it's cruel, fine - but your logic didn't hold, which I pointed out.

If you'd simply like to leave it at, "This is my opinion", then that's fair enough. However, if you supply "evidence" that's extremely flawed, expect people to take note of such.
 
Actually no it wasn't flawed...for years I worked at a vet school & at an animal shelter. I saw the cruel things people do to their animals and home ear jobs was one of the things I saw. So no my information isn't flawed, because in my area it happens.

I am sorry that you don't think that butchering animals for looks is cruel, but that is the way of this world these days.

Its sad that you also don't see that fighting dogs is wrong, since you didn't like my statement of what i think should happen to dog fighters. I am so glad I am not one of your pets.
 
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