raynefyre
Taste the Rainbow
Yeah I think the past two years he's been small enough to go through or just not gone into it deep enough to get stuck. The new ones I got are completely flush on top just like the tubs for all my babies and yearlings.
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Emergency! Pinched in his tub. :(
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Yeah I think the past two years he's been small enough to go through or just not gone into it deep enough to get stuck. The new ones I got are completely flush on top just like the tubs for all my babies and yearlings.
Naagas
Deserae :)
Wow... this is kinda scary.
I have temporarily housed snakes in those tubs... now I know to watch out.
This reminds me of the time I made an air hole just a tiny bit too big... and opened the door to a scary sight the next morning. He had barely forced his head through the hole and was stuck, thrashing around.
No long term damage, but he looked terrible and bulgy-eyed. I thought I had killed him.
I have temporarily housed snakes in those tubs... now I know to watch out.
This reminds me of the time I made an air hole just a tiny bit too big... and opened the door to a scary sight the next morning. He had barely forced his head through the hole and was stuck, thrashing around.
No long term damage, but he looked terrible and bulgy-eyed. I thought I had killed him.
beautifullywild77
Go Penguins!!!
wow, just went I convince myself to get a rack system and use tubs! I hope your lil guy turns out alright! Good juju's your way!
WingedSweetheart
New member
I was preparing a rack system for some new arrivals this coming spring. I'm glad all my tubs are smooth on the inside.
Anyway your guy does look much better. Hopefully he just has an ugly bruise and that is the worst of the damage. Poor guy.
Anyway your guy does look much better. Hopefully he just has an ugly bruise and that is the worst of the damage. Poor guy.
CornyApollo
Proud Owner of Apollo
Thanks for posting pics of the tubs, especially with the washcloth. I'll be sure to avoid those like the plague.
raynefyre
Taste the Rainbow
Vet Visit Update (Mildly Graphic Pictures Warning)
I finally had time off from work to take him to the vet. He has been improving, but I wanted a professional opinion just to make sure.
I took him to Dr. Greek in Yorba Linda, CA. (Which is an excellent vet in case anyone is wondering.) And this is what he had to say:
His tissues (skin and muscle) had been damaged from being pinched, but not crushed beyond repair. Dr. Greek explained to me that when muscle is severely crushed it released deadly toxins into the system that are fatal to the snake. His tissues are still pink and healthy, which is a good sign. An even better sign is that his tail has not lost any color, which means it's still healthy and fully functional. He also said that he's past the biggest hurdle and is definitely on the road to recovery. The main concern now is that he's at risk for infection from open wounds.
Dr. Greek prescribed an oral antibiotic (baytril) and antiseptic wash (novasan) to be administered once daily until he is healed. I'm also keeping him on paper towels with slightly raised temps in order to promote his healing process.
He told me that since his attitude hasn't changed (minus biting and pooping on the vet tech that tried to weigh him. I would too though if I was injured and being grabbed by a stranger.) it's a great sign that he's going to make it. He also told me that he should be fine to feed anytime, but I'm going to hold off for a few days so he can de-stress from his excursion today.
Dr. Greek finished with saying that I've done everything right, and that I'm an excellent herper. In his words, "Snakes just do dumb things sometimes." After my visit today, I can definitely sleep a little more soundly knowing he's on his way to recovery.
I grabbed a few shots after cleaning his wounds with the Novasan. His skin is already healing and shedding around the injured area. This also peels his scabs off, but as I understand it that is normal. (Just a warning to the squeamish, the pictures are mildly graphic.)
You can see the white tissue (I believe Dr. Greek said that was partly muscle??) from where the damaged skin was shed away.
The other side. The wounds were all fresh and open from shedding which looked upsetting to me, but none were showing signs of infection.
I finally had time off from work to take him to the vet. He has been improving, but I wanted a professional opinion just to make sure.
I took him to Dr. Greek in Yorba Linda, CA. (Which is an excellent vet in case anyone is wondering.) And this is what he had to say:
His tissues (skin and muscle) had been damaged from being pinched, but not crushed beyond repair. Dr. Greek explained to me that when muscle is severely crushed it released deadly toxins into the system that are fatal to the snake. His tissues are still pink and healthy, which is a good sign. An even better sign is that his tail has not lost any color, which means it's still healthy and fully functional. He also said that he's past the biggest hurdle and is definitely on the road to recovery. The main concern now is that he's at risk for infection from open wounds.
Dr. Greek prescribed an oral antibiotic (baytril) and antiseptic wash (novasan) to be administered once daily until he is healed. I'm also keeping him on paper towels with slightly raised temps in order to promote his healing process.
He told me that since his attitude hasn't changed (minus biting and pooping on the vet tech that tried to weigh him. I would too though if I was injured and being grabbed by a stranger.) it's a great sign that he's going to make it. He also told me that he should be fine to feed anytime, but I'm going to hold off for a few days so he can de-stress from his excursion today.
Dr. Greek finished with saying that I've done everything right, and that I'm an excellent herper. In his words, "Snakes just do dumb things sometimes." After my visit today, I can definitely sleep a little more soundly knowing he's on his way to recovery.
I grabbed a few shots after cleaning his wounds with the Novasan. His skin is already healing and shedding around the injured area. This also peels his scabs off, but as I understand it that is normal. (Just a warning to the squeamish, the pictures are mildly graphic.)
You can see the white tissue (I believe Dr. Greek said that was partly muscle??) from where the damaged skin was shed away.
The other side. The wounds were all fresh and open from shedding which looked upsetting to me, but none were showing signs of infection.
Emscornsnake
New member
Get better soon snake. Happy to hear he will be alright.
Hexadeci
Paranoid After Midnight
Glad to hear he's doing well. O man the wounds look scarey to me, but I'm glad to hear they are healing well. He's shed since? I have heard that when there is any scale trauma it often increases the frequency of sheds. Also glad to hear Dr Greek was able to help.
carol
Down with the sickness
Wow so sorry this has happened again and that I didn't see this post sooner. I hope he has a fast recovery, but you may want to read Mr. Crustyback's story to be prepared for what *might* happen. (Still not a bad ending though)
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80828&highlight=crustyback
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80828&highlight=crustyback
raynefyre
Taste the Rainbow
Update with pictures.
Charlie has been looking great lately. His wounds are closing up. He's as alive and feisty as ever. He even musked me after I finished his antibiotic wash... which resulted in another one and my room smelling disgusting.
He still is refusing food, which I can understand because his wound is still pretty sensitive. He showed some interest in my offering yesterday, but after a moment changed his mind.
And now I know why. He decided to shed today. Which I guess is great, but it didn't come off completely. Since his wound takes up a good 3" of his back his shed only came off up to that point, and now the scabs have started to pull of and the wound is open again.
I know the wound opening back up is normal, but I'm concerned about the bottom half of his body not shedding. I didn't want to bother him too much; he was already cranky enough with just changing his paper towels and applying some of his medical wash to the open spot.
So my question is... should I help him once he's calmer to finish shedding? I did add a small plastic log into his tub for something to help him tonight. My thoughts are if he doesn't finish shedding in a day or so I'll try my best to help him out. I just don't want his bottom half to lose circulation or anything from retaining the old shed.
Charlie has been looking great lately. His wounds are closing up. He's as alive and feisty as ever. He even musked me after I finished his antibiotic wash... which resulted in another one and my room smelling disgusting.
He still is refusing food, which I can understand because his wound is still pretty sensitive. He showed some interest in my offering yesterday, but after a moment changed his mind.
And now I know why. He decided to shed today. Which I guess is great, but it didn't come off completely. Since his wound takes up a good 3" of his back his shed only came off up to that point, and now the scabs have started to pull of and the wound is open again.
I know the wound opening back up is normal, but I'm concerned about the bottom half of his body not shedding. I didn't want to bother him too much; he was already cranky enough with just changing his paper towels and applying some of his medical wash to the open spot.
So my question is... should I help him once he's calmer to finish shedding? I did add a small plastic log into his tub for something to help him tonight. My thoughts are if he doesn't finish shedding in a day or so I'll try my best to help him out. I just don't want his bottom half to lose circulation or anything from retaining the old shed.
raynefyre
Taste the Rainbow
Need some more advice.
I made him a moist hide with just a plastic shoebox tub, some bunched up paper towels, and a sprinkle of water this morning. He's been so alert and active that he didn't seem interested at first, but when I got home from work he was curled up inside.
I brought him out into his treatment tub. His skin was nice and soft so I helped him peel off the loose skin around his wound and get the bottom half of his shed off his body. What a relief! I was worried all day that his bottom half of his body was losing circulation from the old skin.
The only issue left is that there's still skin on and a little bit around the wound. It wouldn't come off with just gentle pressure like the rest did, so I just gave him his antibiotic wash, cleaned his moist hide and changed the paper towels inside, then put him and the hide back in his tub.
Here's how his wound looks after his assisted shed.
Side 1:
Side 2:
Top:
I was happy to see some bleeding going on, meaning that there's still good blood flow to the area. My concern is what to do about the skin on the wound. I don't want him to get more damage by removing tissue with the skin, but I also don't want it to hinder healing. As of right now I'm leaving him alone with his moist hide to see what he decides to do. He was very cooperative and deserves some R&R.
I made him a moist hide with just a plastic shoebox tub, some bunched up paper towels, and a sprinkle of water this morning. He's been so alert and active that he didn't seem interested at first, but when I got home from work he was curled up inside.
I brought him out into his treatment tub. His skin was nice and soft so I helped him peel off the loose skin around his wound and get the bottom half of his shed off his body. What a relief!
I was worried all day that his bottom half of his body was losing circulation from the old skin.The only issue left is that there's still skin on and a little bit around the wound. It wouldn't come off with just gentle pressure like the rest did, so I just gave him his antibiotic wash, cleaned his moist hide and changed the paper towels inside, then put him and the hide back in his tub.
Here's how his wound looks after his assisted shed.
Side 1:
Side 2:
Top:
I was happy to see some bleeding going on, meaning that there's still good blood flow to the area. My concern is what to do about the skin on the wound. I don't want him to get more damage by removing tissue with the skin, but I also don't want it to hinder healing. As of right now I'm leaving him alone with his moist hide to see what he decides to do. He was very cooperative and deserves some R&R.
bitsy
Owned by Corns since 1991
I would leave the stuck skin which is actually on or around the wound. I've had ones which have had operations, and attempts to make sure they shed it completely, have resulted in the wound reopening slightly.
If you leave it, I've found that the old skin around the wound builds up a little, but eventually comes off with a shed as the skin underneath closes and heals. The process will speed up now.
I think taking the skin off will hinder healing more than leaving it.
I wouldn't leave the moist hide in with him now that he's shed the majority of his skin. The last thing you need is somewhere he likes to spend his time, where bacteria can build up.
Looks like it's going well though!
If you leave it, I've found that the old skin around the wound builds up a little, but eventually comes off with a shed as the skin underneath closes and heals. The process will speed up now.
I think taking the skin off will hinder healing more than leaving it.
I wouldn't leave the moist hide in with him now that he's shed the majority of his skin. The last thing you need is somewhere he likes to spend his time, where bacteria can build up.
Looks like it's going well though!