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What type of holster and location do you use Rich?
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- Thread starter ratsncorns
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I mostly use a wrap around the belt external holster that shields the trigger with hard plastic. It snaps on and off with pressure snaps around the belt, so it's easy putting it on and removing it. So it's sitting on my hip in plain site. If I'm out and about in public off of my property (Florida considers open carry as being illegal, with or without a CCW) I have the gun concealed in a butt bag.
MegF.
That's for sale???
No, actually this is from the opinions and facts from the Sheriff's dept. with which I worked with for years. Drunks, those under the influence of drugs or just plain pissed off people will not stop when confronted with a firearm, nor will they stop if shot. There were more than one female that was assaulted by their spouse after shooting them with small caliber firearms. Drug addicts can and do fight with police personnel even when tazed, shot or otherwise attempted at being stopped. Statistics are statistics. Relatively sober people back up and run at the sight of a gun....strung out, drunk and raging maniacs don't.
El Jefe
Mark 16:18
I have no doubt there are crazy people that will not be stopped with a bullett--small calibar or otherwise. However, my skepticism is whether it is "not likely" these abnormal people stop and continue their charge instead of trying to flee or desist.
This is an issue that is meaningful to me and I would love to see facts and statistics on this subject. I would appreciate any guidance to find the information of which you speak.
Nanci
Alien Lover
Did you guys hear on the news this afternoon- a 911 call in which a seemingly calm woman was asking the 911 operator if it was okay to shoot people who were breaking into her (store?). She said she had a gun in each hand (?) I have to listen again! She killed one and sent one to the hospital.
Nanci
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Nanci
Alien Lover
Hopefully she has evidence from leaving 911 operator on the line and clearly telling the intruders to stop or she will shoot. She sounded very under control in the 911 call they played. How horrifying. Two guys armed with a 12" knife and who knows what else going around her house looking for a way in. They obviously scoped her out earlier in the week. Good thing she was armed.
MegF.
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Since she was on the phone for 21 minutes I suspect they would have to say it was self defense. She and her family were in danger. I wouldn't have asked though, I would have just shot them. Good on her! Somebody needs to protect themselves!
Jeff: Our department didn't break things down like that, but I imagine they do have the statistics there somewhere. I just know from being there when they happen. There are people that will break into your home to try to steal and will back down to a gun, one of the guys at my husband's work has a son that tried a home invasion. The person he tried to invade had a gun (he did as well) and he ran. He was not completely toasted at the time. If you've ever seen how people act under the influence of PCP or meth, you'd know that they don't give a crap about what you have. They aren't even aware of what you have...they are just set on doing what they are doing. So, while a .22 would probably do the trick for some kid breaking into your home or the guy trying to rob the liquor store, it isn't what I want to have with the crazy drugged up guy on the street or trying to carjack you. That said, a good friend of mine shot a carjacker with his .22 and while it didn't kill the guy, he didn't get the car
Jeff: Our department didn't break things down like that, but I imagine they do have the statistics there somewhere. I just know from being there when they happen. There are people that will break into your home to try to steal and will back down to a gun, one of the guys at my husband's work has a son that tried a home invasion. The person he tried to invade had a gun (he did as well) and he ran. He was not completely toasted at the time. If you've ever seen how people act under the influence of PCP or meth, you'd know that they don't give a crap about what you have. They aren't even aware of what you have...they are just set on doing what they are doing. So, while a .22 would probably do the trick for some kid breaking into your home or the guy trying to rob the liquor store, it isn't what I want to have with the crazy drugged up guy on the street or trying to carjack you. That said, a good friend of mine shot a carjacker with his .22 and while it didn't kill the guy, he didn't get the car
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If it happened as the article described she should be applauded. I know I rant on here frequently about things like this but I am so past tired of hearing about criminals rights in lieu of victims rights. Good guys 1 - bad guys 0 at the McKinley residence. Hooray for her!!!
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Rich, I have always had handguns from Beretta, Sig, and Ruger with an odd Springfield or S&W thrown in but never owned a Glock. Is there something specific that drew you to the Glock? size? form? weight? trigger safety?
Honestly, I had a model 17 Glock many years ago, and just didn't care for it at all. Wound up trading it off at a gun shot for a Colt Delta Elite in 10mm (yeah, who got the better end of THAT deal! :laugh: ). Anyway, when I was looking for a new carry gun I was specifically looking for something in .357Sig and as small of a package as possible. The ONLY gun that even came close to fitting the bill was the Glock model 33. So I reluctantly bought it, thinking I was going to hate the thing. But honestly, I took it down to where I have a little shooting area on my property and sandbagged some shots at a target. I was pretty surprised at how accurate that little gun was. Trigger pull was much better than I remember from that model 17, and all in all, I was pretty impressed with the gun. Now I did modify is slightly by putting a pinky extension on the magazines. I have small hands, and even with my hands, my pinky finger had nothing to hold onto as small as the grip is. But with that extension, it's just about perfect now.
One thing that Glocks are well known for is reliability. Well, as long as you don't use bare lead nosed bullets, anyway. So with the small package, light weight, excellent round (the .357Sig is the autoloading equivalent, ballistically, of the .357 Magnum cartridge), accurate shooting, and reliability, this was pretty much exactly what I wanted. If I somehow lost this gun, I would buy another tomorrow.
vliberatore
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When I shoot Glocks, I feel like I'm holding a block of wood. I find the ergonomics of the Springfield XD/XDM and S&W M&P series guns far superior to that of a Glock.
Personal preference though.
On a side note, starting an AR build in the coming weeks. Very excited.
Personal preference though.
On a side note, starting an AR build in the coming weeks. Very excited.
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MegF.
That's for sale???
I never liked the Glock...just didn't fit my hand right and always felt awkward and blocky. By contrast, my mom loved the Glock and toyed with getting that instead of shooting the high standard 22 pistol. Cost effectiveness won out though and she stuck with the 22...but she did love that Glock!
Not all Glocks will feel the same. I really wanted one in 10mm and also in .45, but I really did not like the feel of them in my hand. Of course, in someone else's they might feel just fine.
I have NEVER bought a S&W semi-auto simply because I could never find one I liked the feel of. Bringing it quickly up to line up the sights never went smoothly and fluidly and I always had to force the sights to line up. So they were never natural pointers in my hand.
I have a Beretta 96 .40S&W stainless that I had Barsto convert to .357Sig that is awesome in every respect. I almost foolishly sold it, but changed my mind at the last moment when someone did express interest in it. And I have a Sig 229 (also in .357Sig) laying on the nightstand next to the bed.
If you all like the AR platform, take a look at one chambered for the .50 Beowulf cartridge. :grin01:
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I am constantly buying and selling guns. The ones I got from my dad or granddad will never go away but everything else is fair game for change. I have had my Redhawk for over 20 years so besides the hand-me-downs it is my longest with the same gun. I just really like that gun. I have had my Beretta 92 for about 10 years. It just has a real good feel in my hands. I like my Ruger MarkIII but just don't shoot it much so it may go soon. Been thinking about a Beretta Bobcat to replace it. It would also make a good backup gun because of size not caliber.
Someday I will have a Barrett just tough to justify the $10,000 right now.
Someday I will have a Barrett just tough to justify the $10,000 right now.