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!!!! My Unexpected EGGS !!!!

Goodness, Brett! I was hoping you and Dizzles were going to get a break! I'm crossing everything that this goes smoothly for you. Looking forward to the update from the vet visit.
 
Brett I feel for you man. But your doing the right thing for Dizzles taking her to the vet. Let's hope this will be the end of this for her. PM me if you need anything Brett. Good luck to you both!
 
thanks guys.
wer booked in at the vets in an hour so as soon as i get back il let you know how its gone!
 
just got back now.
at the vets she got a shot of Octitosin (i think that is what it is called), which is an injection with a hormone that should get her to lay the eggs.
If this doesnt work the vets gave me the name of a reptile vets in manchester that i will have to get in touch with.
 
omg i so sorry hope all gose well with her

and plz keep us updated

zoie,nick, and all the reptile family
 
ye thats right, she said that they use it for dogs and cats and stuff when there haveing trouble giving birth. She hasnt passed them yet though, im hoping over the course of tonight she will do.
And to answer the question, I deffinately WILL want to breed corns in the future. This hasnt gone smoothly (not that i could help it, this would have happened anyway seeing as she allready had the eggs in her), but it has deffinately wet my appetite for breeding corns. Having eggs in the incubator is a great feeling!
 
Poor girl! She's been laying eggs for almost a month and now this. Hope it all turns out for the best in the end. Can your vet aspirate the last couple eggs? Maybe if they can you could help massage them out. I agree with ForkedTung and say no more boys for this girl. Next time you may lose her.
 
Unfortunately, that would be my opinion as well. I mean it could be a fluke thing that she's having this problem now but what if it's not? I don't think I'd be using her as a breeder. She'd just be my snuggle pet.
 
You could aspirate them yourself. I've done it. An 18 guage needle or slightly smaller on a 10cc syringe and you go right thru the wall of the side into the egg. Aspirate the contents and they usually will pass them without issue. Kathy walked me thru it when I had to do it, and it worked like a charm. They rarely even move when you put in the needle.
 
Oxytocin does work with some herps, but unfortunately, rarely helps with snakes. A herp vet told me that years ago, and I haven't heard of anyone specifically tell me it worked for them. But I do hope you are the exception, and it solves your problem!

I have had the most success in aspirating eggs, although it has to be done before the eggs solidify - usually a couple of weeks after they should have been laid. Vets generally don't like to do aspiration because they are worried about infection. But I have not found it to be a problem, and more vets seem to be performing this procedure now than in the past.

Good luck - hope it works out ok for you!
 
hey guys!
shel still not got rid of these eggs! i just took her out and tried to give her a massage behind the eggs but i doubt that that had any effect on her. I cant get her to the other vets today and even tomorrow is looking tight because i have to work.
What is this aspiration technique? Am i understanding it right that you get to the egg through the side of the snake?? with a needle?? Or do you go through the vent?? Is it high risk??
Are the any other options that i could do myself to try and get the eggs out of her???

thanks guys
 
You insert the needle through the side of the snake directly into the egg. Then you pull back on the plunger to suck the inside of the egg out. It collapses the egg so the snake can pass it easier. A vet can provide the needle for near nothing. It's not a high risk thing, but there is a slight chance of infection at the site so make sure it stays clean. You could try to let her swim in the tub for about 15-20 minutes. Use room temp water. Some times that helps. But this girl has been trying to lay for so long I'm not sure it would help now.
 
hmmmm, do you think its wirth trying? im not sure i would feel 100percent comfortable doing that. And if anything went wrong i would feel horrible.
Are there any other techniques?
 
If an egg is right near the vent, you can usually get it out with massaging and using a lubricated sexing probe to guide it out. But if it is more than an inch into the snake, I haven't had any luck except either aspiration (very good results) or waiting it out and hoping she eventually pushes it out, which does happen sometimes. Or the vet can do surgery. Can't really think of anything else, other than gentle exercise, such as swimming. But it probably would have worked already if it was going to work.

Maybe your vet or a local breeder would do, or help you do, the aspiration?
 
kathylove said:
If an egg is right near the vent, you can usually get it out with massaging and using a lubricated sexing probe to guide it out. But if it is more than an inch into the snake, I haven't had any luck except either aspiration (very good results) or waiting it out and hoping she eventually pushes it out, which does happen sometimes. Or the vet can do surgery. Can't really think of anything else, other than gentle exercise, such as swimming. But it probably would have worked already if it was going to work.

Maybe your vet or a local breeder would do, or help you do, the aspiration?
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you know Kathy, i would say the eggs are about a centimeter away from her vent. Not that far really, but i dont have a probing kit or anything. I think maybe i will take her into the shop tomorrow and speak to the boys about maybe probing her and guiding the egg out! will have to see tomorrow.

i think later i will give her a bath and some more massaging.
Shes going to be needing a meal soon though, wouldnt want to tempt a re-gurge, maybe that can wait a couple of days.
 
You can also use a small knitting needle (not a crochet hook!). If it is smooth, long, and about the right thickness, you can gently guide it around the egg from the vent. You go around and around several times, which relaxes the muscles holding the vent closed. Using a thumb to gently push the egg towards the vent so it won't go backwards, put the lubricated probe in until you touch the egg. Make sure you are in direct contact with the egg, with no mucus membranes in between the probe and the egg. If the probe is holding the passageway open with nothing in between, then you won't risk pushing the oviduct in front of the egg, causing a prolapse. You may be able to see the egg itself, or just feel the texture through the probe end. Just make sure it is only the egg that comes out, and no tissue.

Once the closest egg comes out, sometimes the others will work their way down to where you can manipulate them out. Just be careful - I let a reptile vet manipulate eggs once (not using my method with the probe), and I thought he was using a lot of force, although he said he wasn't. Both females were dead within 24 hours. But with the probe guiding the way, and gentleness, I have had good success, although not quite 100% success.

Of course, I must add the disclaimer that I am not a vet, and don't encourage anyone to do this if they don't feel comfortable about it. It is always best to get a vet, or at least an experienced breeder, to help when doing a new procedure. However, I developed this technique on my own through trial and error, and have pretty good results.

Good luck!
 
(I am so glad that if I EVER have a problem, Kathy is in the same state!!! Because I will be begging at her doorstep for help!!)
 
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