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Very political!! Don't read if easially offended. (please)

Here's my 2 bits...

I have family that do things that I can't abide by. Not immediate family, but cousins, uncles, aunts, etc. We are civil with each other when we meet (which isn't often) and we do LOVE each other - we're family. BUT, I don't hang out with their circles and don't do the things they do. I'm way past the point of trying to be influential in their lives as they have made their choices. I don't disown them, but I don't condone their actions. If they ask my opinions, I let them know... if it becomes argumentative, I let them know that they asked and then I leave it at that.

What more can one do?
 
Here is my perspective on the KKK.

When I was 16, I was out cruising with some friends along some of the back roads outside of Lexington, KY. We were having a great time. As we came to the top of a hill, all the fun stopped. There in a field to our right stood a burning cross with many hooded figures around it.

In the car with me was a black guy and an American Indian. Seeing the look in their eyes as we all realized what we were looking at was unforgettable. The driver stopped in the middle of the road, made a U-turn and quickly headed back the way we had come.

I did not understand then, and I do not understand now, how anyone can judge someone by the color of their skin.

I am naive in the belief that we should all try to find the things we all have in common with one another. Most people do not do this.

If a friend or family member of mine joined the KKK, or any other similar group, I would be civil towards that person but would otherwise end my relationship with them.
 
I'd just like to say how very much I respect all posters in this thread. I'm proud to be associated with you.

Thank you.
 
Personally, I wouldn't be able to ignore the elepnant in the room, I wouldn't be able to continue to be civil to any friend or relation who supported such hateful doctrines. I'd tell them so and want them out of my life.
 
The main reason for racism, bigotry etc... is Fear! I see weakness in anyone that is comfortable with those views.
 
I would let them know that I hold absolutely no respect for ignorance and bigotry, and if his choice is to be associated with such hatred and bigotry, than we would no longer be friends.

I gotta tell ya, though...I can't imagine being what I would consider "like brothers" with someone and not knowing how deeply rooted their hate beliefs are...
 
I wouldn't care if it was my family members that got involved. I still doubt I could be civil to them for very long. I've had several very good friends of all ethnicities, and most of my family and other friends know that.

I agree with Kyle on the basis for it all. Fear. People in the Klan are some of the most insecure people I could imagine. Why else do they wear those sheets to keep from being seen?
 
I find any group or religion that singles out a race simply because of their race, with no regards to character, merit or contributions to society to be devoid of what should encompass a religion in the first place. Is it not the goal of any religion to teach tolerance and to educate their members. Whether it be the KKK or other, these groups simply scream ignorance, and lack of basic education.
I admire you for seeking opinions, as this shows somewhere you know that this group is perhaps biased and your friend is looking for answers in all the wrong places. At least he is looking, but lets try to keep our eyes and minds open and always remember we are all humans, regardless of color and creed. As the saying goes, we all bleed the same.
 
petpro553 said:
As the saying goes, we all bleed the same.
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I once met a elderly man who had been a died-in-the-wool racist in a small town in the Deep South. He was drafted into the Army in WWII. He served in the European theater. During a German attack during the advance after D-Day he was caught up with some African American soldiers (who did not serve in combat roles in WWII generally, but in support roles). The African Americans, although they had not been trained for combat, grabbed rifles & fought the Germans. Some were wounded. He said that he saw that day that the African Americans (although he called them Negroes) were just like him and bled the same.

After WWII ended he went home & couldn't stomach the racism. Moved to a city in the South & worked quietly on integration issues in his workplace.

Racists ~can~ change.

Don't tolerate this person being a racist but don't cut them off completely is my advice
 
Why would you even post this? The KKK is not a very well like organization (If you even want to call it that) by most everyone! I mean I am a straight white male. Just like most of the KKK. But I HATE them. I don't hate many things but I do HATE the KKK. They are hated so WHY post this crap? I mean they ghave the most stupid beliefs. I believe every man, woman and child is on this earth for a reason regardless of age, race, sexuality, religion, etc etc. And if you don't beieve that then (censored).
Thanks!
 
I obviously agree with everyone here I would ask him why he had choosen his affiliation and make it known I didn't agree. Judging him makes you know better than the kkk, but it would make it hard to want to relate to him anymore.

On a side note- didn't you know he was racist before?
 
desertanimal said:
Well I sure wouldn't be friends with anyone in the KKK. It would be an impossibility in both directions. And I wouldn't even be friends with anyone who was friends with anyone in the KKK. There are things I can't tolerate in friends, and bigotry is among them. I also have no respect for people who won't make a stand and walk away from friendships with people who've announced that they are bigots.
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What she said. So what if the friend is like family, or even IS family. Aside from the question of how could you still be friends with that person, when it becomes known that you are friends with a Klan member, that reflects poorly on you, too, and you will be judged by the company you keep.
 
danielle said:
Judging him makes you know better than the kkk, but it would make it hard to want to relate to him anymore.
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I disagree. The guy is being judged on his choices and actions, which is fair. The KKK judge based on skin color, which is not.

If we can't 'judge' someone based on their actions, then no one here has any call to criticize a snake owner for neglecting their snake. We can absolutely judge people on their actions - we do it all the time. Society couldn't operate without it.
 
David, stop. This person came on to look for opinions (much like the threads that you start that go on for hundreds of posts) and possibly help with a situation. Yeah, people hate the KKK because they're an absolutely disgusting organization. But who are you to deny someone's right to ask for help?
 
To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant. ~ Amos Bronson Alcott

Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong. ~ Thomas Jefferson

I have no patience with the ignorant, and my free time is more valuable than to spend it with them. ~ Eric/vetusvates
 
Kokopelli said:
Andrew I am just not quite sure what you hoped to gain by opening this thread... did you really believe you will get an actual discussion/argument with -support- for the KKK?
I doubt that people will openly claim support on this forum, and even if they do it'd deteriorate quickly to places it shouldn't...

Can't see the benefit here...
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I am no way asking for support it was just a topic I was confused this kid has been my friend sence I was 4! Thats alot of friendship to throw away maybe I am looking for a way to talk him out of it!
 
danielle said:
I obviously agree with everyone here I would ask him why he had choosen his affiliation and make it known I didn't agree. Judging him makes you know better than the kkk, but it would make it hard to want to relate to him anymore.

On a side note- didn't you know he was racist before?
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Honestly he kept his views on his hate very hidden and thats what concers me.(WHAT CHANGED? I will be honest I knew he held some hate towards one person who was black and I can agree with his point, this one and only one killed his dad. But that is only one person that was 15 years ago and I cant see why or how now! Unless he was meet or someone talked him into joining......But I never thought he would have joined or even done this. He was a big part of church involved with kids in the neighborhood like a role model. I just don't get it!
 
Nova_C said:
I disagree. The guy is being judged on his choices and actions, which is fair. The KKK judge based on skin color, which is not.

If we can't 'judge' someone based on their actions, then no one here has any call to criticize a snake owner for neglecting their snake. We can absolutely judge people on their actions - we do it all the time. Society couldn't operate without it.
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Nova, there is a difference between being judgemental of the person as a whole, and having an opinion about a singular belief held by the person. My opinion is racism is ignorant, but I do not judge the person as being ignorant if that makes sense. The kkk judges a person's worth, character, intelligence, and being based on skin color and religion as a whole. They form the opinion of less than a person because of these factors without regard to the other facets that make this person human.

I don't judge a person on the whole because of their snake keeping habits, religion, beliefs, or ideologies- I just find some people's opinions stupid- but not them.

I also believe if we or anyone forms one singular view of a person based on any of the above factors they are judgemental and no better than the person they are judging. I don't support the views of the kkk, but I can't judge that every single member has no other redeeming human qualities because of their affiliation either:)
 
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