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Anyone else noticing the push for 2016 elections already?

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Yesterday I saw a bumper sticker that said "I'm Ready for Hillary".... I nearly threw up... I can already see myself being called sexist, because I will never support her. I know too many people who were in the military and had to serve her and her jack-hole of a husband for building clearance, etc. And I can say that they were the most rude, obnoxious, hateful people that had been in the white house up until then...

Unfortunately I see the republicans backing Jeb Bush as their guy, even though Rand has a better chance... Oh well, either way, we will still be stuck in a 2 party farce of a government.
 
I'm surprised it took you that long to see it in Cruces.

I was seeing bumper stickers for Hillary up in Albuquerque as early as 2012 and much of the later part of last year.
 
Honestly, I would have been just as sick to my stomach seeing one that says "Bush 2016"... I don't think that either of those families need to be in politics anymore.

Actually, get rid of the whole lot, and lets start over with people who work for a living.
 
Unfortunately politics has become about winning the next election. As soon as 2016 happens, the next day there will be talk about 2020 for POTUS and 2018 for the mid-terms.

IIRC, I remember reading that Congress spends more time fund-raising than they do actually working.
 
IMHO she is borderline treasonous. Having had multiple requests for additional security in Benghazi under her state dept and refused them. Subsequently allowing Americans to be murdered, including an ambassador, on US soil (embassy grounds). And then have the gull to openly lie to the people saying it was a video demonstration. She should be in prison not running for the White House.

But probably the worst part … the amount of voters that will ignore Benghazi and vote her in anyway. :nope::nope::nope:
 
My big fusstration is when poletitions lump social security and medicare in the same sentence as welfare and medicaid. These are not the same SSI and medicare is paid for by people who worked all their lives and welfare and medicaid is for the poor no contributions needed by the people who get it. I agree that reform is needed but some of these people should know what they are talking about. I think young people now should be given a choice on going with SSI as it stands now or choosing to opt out and save on their own. My daughter is 23 and just finished college and will start saving on her own, she like us has no faith in the government right now especially at the rate we are building up the debt. Oh for another Ronald Reagan.
 
blue roses said:
... I think young people now should be given a choice on going with SSI as it stands now or choosing to opt out and save on their own. ...
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No longer a possibility. Once the politicians moved the money from a trust to the general fund and started spending it and replacing it with IOUs it became a ponzi scheme. You know the thing the jailed Madoff for running. :shrugs:
 
tsst said:
No longer a possibility. Once the politicians moved the money from a trust to the general fund and started spending it and replacing it with IOUs it became a ponzi scheme. You know the thing the jailed Madoff for running. :shrugs:
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That in itself should be classified as a criminal act and all who voted for it treated as criminals accordingly. Unfortunately one of the major failings of the US Constitution is that they are LEGALLY protected from prosecution outside of what their own cohorts might use as a faint slap on the wrist IF their feet are held to the fire where they HAVE to do something publicly to save their own face when an indiscretion is uncovered and goes viral.

Had a company pulled the same thing with funds they collected they would have been prosecuted by this very same government.
 
If you were to act like your government, you would be in prison.

I can't remember who said it first, but I love that quote.
 
The problem is most people won't vote these people out. When someone comes up with a decent idea the opposition comes up with a million reasons why it is no good. We did not have to distroy the health care system to correct it, all we needed to do is pass tort reforms so that the cost of insurance would go down and people could afford to buy it if their jobs didn't offer any. Since the new affordable health care came in my husbands deduction went from 100 a week to 200 a week for his family plan he gives bac 50% of his saary in deductions alone. We are only a few years from retirement but i feel sorry for the younger workers, and the government should have no right to mandate anything on a private citizen, they don't know whats best for me, only i know whats best for me.
 
Another big problem is the fact that no one will do anything to CHANGE. We always vote for the lesser of two evils, or not at all. We'll never get anywhere that way.
 
blue roses said:
........the government should have no right to mandate anything on a private citizen, they don't know whats best for me, only i know whats best for me.
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Certainly. Especially when it is extremely obvious that the government is not qualified to run a damned thing at all outside of their own self interests. Which, truth be known, they can do exceedingly well. WE are AT LEAST 17 trillion bucks in debt right now with no end in sight. They legislated caps on debt but vote in raising the cap every time they reach the current one, which pretty much shows them in the most accurate light imaginable.

Seriously, if they cannot run what they are already tasked to be responsible for, ACCORDING TO THE US CONSTITUTION, then what in the world would give anyone the idea that they could run ANY segments of OUR lives without spectacular failures as well? I sure as hell do not trust them even the tiniest bit to handle MY health and welfare concerns.

Heck, to be perfectly honest, what exactly is the incentive for them to have my best interests in heart, being retired, and being viewed as a financial liability to them? Bottom line is that for them, the best thing that could happen, fiscally, is for everyone who reaches retirement age to die off as quickly as possible.
 
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Chip said:
If it's Bush vs. Clinton again, I'll cry.
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I suspect that no matter who the candidates are that the democrats and republicans dredge up to parade in front of us will make most of us cry.
 
I thought you meant Christmas shopping has started already...
Seriously, the next election started right after the last one.
 
If there were "Like" buttons on this site...

I would have been hitting them for all of the posts above!

I would love to vote for a female president - but NOT Hillary! And I would love to vote for a black or other minority for president - but DIDN'T vote for the one we have now. I like the idea of voting for somebody other than an old, white, male, lawyer - as we usually end up with. But, as already said, whatever 2 "choices" the Republicrats offer us are not likely to be anyone I really want to vote for. Sad, but true.
 
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