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StephanieWard

StephanieWard

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Got a wild hair to go to pet stores today, ended up at petsmart (was last stop out of 3 stores, cause ya never know). I saw that they had a "fancy" corn snake for sale for 70 bux. Thought to myself "never heard of fancy cornsnake before". it was very nice though, if someone could give me a clue to what it is i would appreciate it. (didnt buy it, i try not to buy from petco or petsmart unless its dog food)
 

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Sorry, forgot to add that the color of the snake is close to a light pink/purply color through the body with tans/yellows more towards the head and neck.
 
I notice that petco and petsmart like to call anything that's not a normal color "fancy". fancy cornsnakes, fancy parakeets, etc...
 
Thanks. So it would have been a bit much to buy it for 70 bux huh. it was around a year old, and a male.
The coloring was nice though...............sigh
 
Looks like a ghost to me. I would never buy from petco or petsmart, either store usually has no clue as to what they are doing with reptiles. And general public dosnt know the wiser when they purchase an animal from them. Like stated before, they label certain traits as "fancy" because they dont know the actual trait name, their associates know almost nothing about the animal their caring for except what it says on the name placard. I have went to multiple stores from here in va, also in AL, and Ca. Every single store the associate had no idea. Non the less looked like a healthy ghost, which 70 bucks wouldnt have been that bad since their were no shipping charges involved.
 
Slipmattic said:
Looks like a ghost to me. I would never buy from petco or petsmart, either store usually has no clue as to what they are doing with reptiles. And general public dosnt know the wiser when they purchase an animal from them. Like stated before, they label certain traits as "fancy" because they dont know the actual trait name, their associates know almost nothing about the animal their caring for except what it says on the name placard..
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I live in the UK and we don't really have big pet shop chains here that sell reptiles so I'm not used to this... but from what I've heard all over the place, in America you seem to have a lot of troubles with this sort of thing. Is there not a law or something that means that they have to be able to look after the animals? It seems to me it's nothing short of cruelty if unknowing shops are selling pets which need a lot of care and attention to unknowing customers. It makes me sad because a lot of the best herp people I've spoken to are from America so it makes me sad that shops like this are giving herp people bad reputations and also giving ill advice to new people on what should be a fun and rewarding pet. :(
 
Wow, I had an eight-paragraph response written to Haydn's question, but realized it'd be way rude to hijack the thread for a big-box pet store flame fest. There are nothing more than the minimum cruelty laws applicable. None of their employees has a clue, therefore they cannot pass along anything resembling a clue. They do fill the need for parents who want to buy a cheap reptile for their kids with the knowledge that the reptile will die quickly, but it'll shut the kids up.

Thank goodness for the owners and moderators of sites like this that can provide a clue to big-box pet store patrons who really care!

Back on topic, that's a gorgeous snake at a great price!
 
ZoologyGirl said:
I notice that petco and petsmart like to call anything that's not a normal color "fancy". fancy cornsnakes, fancy parakeets, etc...
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Ya I'm a Dog groomer at PetSmart and they do call there corns like that fancy and they get alot of ghost in and thats what it looks like to me but sometime they well get lavenders in.
 
Slipmattic said:
Looks like a ghost to me. I would never buy from petco or petsmart, either store usually has no clue as to what they are doing with reptiles. And general public dosnt know the wiser when they purchase an animal from them. Like stated before, they label certain traits as "fancy" because they dont know the actual trait name, their associates know almost nothing about the animal their caring for except what it says on the name placard. I have went to multiple stores from here in va, also in AL, and Ca. Every single store the associate had no idea. Non the less looked like a healthy ghost, which 70 bucks wouldnt have been that bad since their were no shipping charges involved.
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What??? Okay so we are going to blast someone for buying a snake from Petsmart/petco and other places.... Stop. Yes those places usually do not have the trained personell to inform you about most reptiles. But that does not mean they do not care. The goal is to "educate yourself." Do not think others can or will inform you on a subject. One of the issues is that we depend on other people way to much. If you ask anyone a question about reptile care you might get a number of different anwsers(on this site alone). What should happen is you go into those places with knowledge. Know what your after, and make sure you have done your homework. If you have questions ask for a care sheet, use common sense. Never buy an animal without knowing a little about it, you could end up hurting the animal. There are several people on this site that have animals from these stores. I have never seen a sick animal at these stores. I have seen some horrid living conditions at "some" so called reptile shops, where they stuff a snake in a bin that is way to small for the animal, sheds laying in water bowls and poo everywhere.
I support breeders 100%. The majority of the breeders I know keep their animals clean healthy and can inform you like no others(one of the many reason I am on this site). But I will tell you if I saw a pretty ghost corn at Petsmart that appeared healthy and was in a reasonable price it would go home with me.

Nice snake....
 
First off, it sure looks like a Ghost (Anery + Hypo). The price is very reasonable as well for its size.

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Wonder if any chain pet store corns have hets?
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Here is another way to look at it Chad...
Who supplies the pet store chains?
I for one do and I never give them the hets of the snakes they purchase. I know there may be some the will be very surprised if they ever breed or hit the correct hets.

Gourmet Rodent is one supplier for PetCo, our local pet store buys from me as well as LLL Reptiles. I know LLL Reptiles also buys wholesale from breeders like myself.

One can never know what genetic pool you are swimming in with a pet store chain corn snake.
 
chad27 said:
Wonder if any chain pet store corns have hets?
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I would say yes. From what I understand Most breeders that sell to the Big pet stores, and even some of us smaller guys, sell babies that do not fit our breeding programs or havent sold at shows ect....Call them biproducts but this does not mean they are not great snakes. Most people buy from these stores for pets, only to later get "into" reptiles and breeding ect...

Infact last week, I sold 12 normal babies het for Hypo to a local Pet shop.
 
Correct me if i am wrong, but isnt that how the corn world basically got started?? People went to petstores, saw odd looking snakes, bred them and proved such and such?

There were three (maybe four) clerks that were trying to help me (this store doesnt see much action i think). One of the ladies that worked there also had her boyfriend there because he was thinking about buying this snake. As soon as they lifted the lid and she was able to get the baby out from the aspen i knew right away that it was a hypo something. I debated with my husband for a few minutes deciding whether to buy it, but i have to keep remembering (its hard when you see such nice corns that are hard to pass up) that i promised to help him get his boa projects up and running first before i can buy any more "pets" ;). So I asked him to take a couple of pics for me and the male clerk that was standing there said "why are you doing that" i said to compare to other snakes that ive seen", he said "oh you have fancy snakes at home?" i said ummmmmmmm yea a few. I had already tried to tell these people what the snake was (potentially that is). I had asked for papers, if they had any info on the breeder they got it from, has the snake been sexed (there was NO tapering of the tail at all by the vent, so i was assuming a male, but we all know how that goes). They all looked at me like i was alien, didnt ask questions, didnt seem to be to enthused that i was asking really.

I had a few paragraphs typed too, but with all things considered, im still new to this forum and this hobby so my opinions at this moment are based on incomplete knowledge and i would rather not get flamed for that lol.

Anyway, i would have LOVED to buy that snake, its probably gone now, but my husband has had this dream of being a successful snake breeder for 20 years, but never was able to find a chic ;) that liked snakes. He says that even if he won the lottery he would still do this because he loves it. So unless i find a LAVENDER or OPAL or (my heart would stop) a BLOOD lol in a pet store, i will just have to continue to live vicariously through you all ;).
 
The petco I worked at got whatever was sent to them. 90% were amels and snows. Every once in a while there would be a normal or anery. And one time there was a creamsicle.

They were all labeled 'Corn snakes" and sold for the same price. Seems like they were sent whatever a breeder couldn't sell or get to eat.
 
Wow, i started a pet store slaughter. I say petco/ petsmart in particular because half the time the do not know what they are doing. Yes pet stores HELPED bring corns into the pet trade. But im sure pet stores are not the main contributors, field herpers i would say also made a large contribution. I did not try to take this ad onto this route but it unfortunatley went that way. I personally worked at a VERY large pet store called Animal jungle, here in va. We always tried the hardest to take care of our reptiles, but then again we had a well trained staff and our own dept. I personally think petsmart and petco should be shut down. I remember seeing something on the net awhile back about them. The issue was pretty disguisting, and the pictures were very graffic. Well i have said my portion.
 
And i was NOT "blasting" her for wanting a snake from a pet store. If the animal appread to be healthy and robust, then it probabley was. I stated that alot of the time their staff do not know anything about care in the reptile(s) that their selling. And yes you should know how to care for the reptile that your purchasing and relying on other people to inform you is in fact bad. But then again even more experianced people do this as refering to books, care sheets, and the internet. Someone had to have written the book/ artical.. it did not appear out of the clear blue sky.
 
Stregone said:
They were all labeled 'Corn snakes" and sold for the same price. Seems like they were sent whatever a breeder couldn't sell or get to eat.
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I am not defending anyone on this comment or trying to offend, but all the snake from "good" breeders will have eaten at least once, most twice. A lot of time babies won't eat due to the way they are shipped and handled(from breeder to warehouse, then to the truck or plane, then to the petshop, then out in the public where they are harrassed by big eyes.) perhaps they are co-habbed in the new place and stressed out....Very rarely breeder which sells snakes/reptiles will not ship a non-eater...When it does happen it usually is because the containersgot mixed up.
 
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