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Am i to young to get a pistol?

im 19 and cant own a pistol... well i can but i cant buy ammo or vice versa... i cant remmebr which the law states.

you are definetly way too young.

pistols are pretty expensive too as is any gun....

i own plenty of rifles and shotguns and i have actually operated machine guns. buti have also been trained for that and know how to use a rifle safely and not hurt me or anyone else.
 
Well at 18 I had a rifle, for God's sakes, I had a tank... operating a fire-arm isn't very difficult and doesn't require a whole lot of preparation.
However, the ability to make thought through decisions does. When you have access to such an extreme instrument and are not ready to responsibly use it, it is best avoided.

At 18 in the army I firmly believe that people are NOT ready to own a weapon. There's training, sure. But quite honestly, at least in the IDF, where a commander is 19 years old, and an officer about the same or 20'ish... that's just too young to be put in those situations.

At any rate...
Nanci- I apologize, but I don't think weapons are a toy. The fact that there's a 12 year old kid shooting, to me, is quite horrible. It is irrelevant how mature or responsible kids seem, they are kids, and it is a fact that their ability to make decisions is undeveloped at that point and age.
Might as well let a 12 year old smoke drugs or drive a car.

Firearms are WEAPONS, with the sole purpose of maiming, incapacitating or killing- be it hunting, in self defense or in war. I do not see why on earth should the use of firearms be considered or even allowed to be "fun". I can't demand that people stop making a sport of it, naturally, but I can certainly say that exposing children to the point where they think their parents are "mean" because they don't allow them to own a fire-arm is absurd.

I have been shot at, and thankfully was never ordered to kill- but for God's sakes, I know perfectly well what are the capabilities of these "toys", and I want nothing to do with them. Should I own one, I pray to never have to even look at it.
 
Nitelion94 said:
Sry rich. but umm uh what do u mean by *troll threads* so i can stop
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Well try this one on for size:
Nitelion94 said:
yay someone liked the joke. i want a real gun that can kill stuff. i hate haveing to run bears down and slit there throat i want to kill them from far away
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Unless the bears in your area are merely the size of a rabbit, I SERIOUSLY doubt you are running them down and slitting their throats. An average sized black bear will be between 200 and 300 pounds of all muscle, so unless you are some sort of Man Mountain Dude, there is just no way you are going to have hand to paw combat with one of them critters and not come out second best. Secondly I seriously doubt that you can outrun a bear, so "running them down" is completely ludicrous. They can hit 30 mph, which I am certain is much faster than you can run unless you are an Olympic class runner.

The classic definition of a troll is one who posts BS merely to try to force a provoked reaction out of the readers for his or her own entertainment.

THAT is why I am telling you to cease with the trolling here.
 
Kokopelli said:
Well at 18 I had a rifle, for God's sakes, I had a tank... operating a fire-arm isn't very difficult and doesn't require a whole lot of preparation.
However, the ability to make thought through decisions does. When you have access to such an extreme instrument and are not ready to responsibly use it, it is best avoided.

At 18 in the army I firmly believe that people are NOT ready to own a weapon. There's training, sure. But quite honestly, at least in the IDF, where a commander is 19 years old, and an officer about the same or 20'ish... that's just too young to be put in those situations.

At any rate...
Nanci- I apologize, but I don't think weapons are a toy. The fact that there's a 12 year old kid shooting, to me, is quite horrible. It is irrelevant how mature or responsible kids seem, they are kids, and it is a fact that their ability to make decisions is undeveloped at that point and age.
Might as well let a 12 year old smoke drugs or drive a car.

Firearms are WEAPONS, with the sole purpose of maiming, incapacitating or killing- be it hunting, in self defense or in war. I do not see why on earth should the use of firearms be considered or even allowed to be "fun". I can't demand that people stop making a sport of it, naturally, but I can certainly say that exposing children to the point where they think their parents are "mean" because they don't allow them to own a fire-arm is absurd.

I have been shot at, and thankfully was never ordered to kill- but for God's sakes, I know perfectly well what are the capabilities of these "toys", and I want nothing to do with them. Should I own one, I pray to never have to even look at it.
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very well put. and being in the united states marine corps i have actually had kids around nitelions age and younger come up to me when i have been in uniform walking through the mall or a store or whatever it may be actually ask me if i have killed or been shot at or what kind of explosives have i used and to me its absurd that some kids actually wanna join the military to just go to war and kill. now let me say war is not a beautiful thing. be it i am eventually going to go to combat but as far as im concerned, even though i am trained i do not wish to go to kill or anything of that nature. im going to combat ot protect my nation. to make my nation safe. to keep harm away from my nation. i am not going for the sole purpose of killing or to hurt or anything of that nature. sometimes i actually get mad when all people think the military does is kill. or they try to ask me about how to kill someone with my hands and questions of that nature. i always tell them the military isnt about killing. its about pride, honor and protecting your country and being disciplined and respectful and to work as a team no matter what obstacle you may face. even now today there is people i cant stand with a passion. even some marines i cant stand. but would i leave them behind? no. they are still my brothers and im going to look out for them as they would for me. i digress. weapons are a dangerous thing. especially in the hands of a 16 year old kid. maturity in this instance means the difference between life and death. maturity means you keep the gun in a case or where its supposed to be kept with a safety on it. maturity means you dont point it at people or pull the trigger to dry fire for fun. maturity means you dont use it as a toy. if you made a joke about getting one or 2 because you wanna look like a smiley then i understand why your parents wont let you have one.
 
Well its like they allways say guns dont kill people bullets do. lol jk im done not jokeing thats who i am thats what i do and i guess u ppl would just have to know me to know how i act. u can not judge me based on something i said on line. and btw ppl someone will not me *giveing me a gun* i will b buying it myself
 
Nitelion, we *have* to judge you based on the things you say online... because that's the only way we can interact with each other. I will probably never meet you, so the way you portray yourself online is the *only* way I will ever know you. Thus, by your words shall I judge you as there is no other way.
 
Susan said:
To be honest, I just skimmed this thread, basically because the if the OP isn't mature enough to use capital letters, punctuation and spell check, he/she is most definitely not mature enough to own a firearm.
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That was exactly what I thought. :bang:

It's also not hard to type very well.
 
Nitelion94 said:
Well its like they allways say guns dont kill people bullets do. lol jk im done not jokeing thats who i am thats what i do and i guess u ppl would just have to know me to know how i act. u can not judge me based on something i said on line. and btw ppl someone will not me *giveing me a gun* i will b buying it myself
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Ok...how would you prefer we judge you? We have nothing to go on other than what YOU type, how YOU type, and the words YOU choose to use. Should we judge you based on what someone ELSE says and does online?

And guns DO kill people when they are in the hands of irresponsible and stupid people. Stupid people kill people when they have guns. Without guns, stupid people have a much harder time killing people. They need to use things like cars and BBQ grills...

I gotta be honest...the more you type, the more I am convinced that your mother is right. You are WAY too young for a gun, both physically AND mentally...
 
I think capitalizing the first letter of sentences and ending them with a period (.) would be a great start. It just makes a written paragraph flow properly. Also when speaking of yourself, capitalize "I". Just a suggestion...
 
Well- we lost a lot of good discussion, including the OP apologizing for taking the matter so lightly.
 
Nitelion94 said:
btw ppl someone will not me *giveing me a gun* i will b buying it myself
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Here is the best place http://www.whittakerguns.com Wait five years, walk in, pick out a pistol, give them your licence, sit back and wait for your background check.

I live here and i'm well acquainted with the laws so I can tell you no go till your 21 or issued a side arm by the military.
 
I am very sorry Rich Z. When I started this thread I was being serious. But after hearing a bunch of crap I figured I would say what i felt. Last time I checked i had a freedom of speach. Not that im saying anything about you. I get were your comeing from haveing to deal with spam and all that crap and I am very sorry about that.
 
elrojo said:
I think capitalizing the first letter of sentences and ending them with a period (.) would be a great start. It just makes a written paragraph flow properly. Also when speaking of yourself, capitalize "I". Just a suggestion...
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i realize all this as i write like that i just dont type like that... i can be somewhat lazy when it comes to typeing so i just type the way i do.. i do put in commas and periods and punctuation when im typing a long paragraph, but for a short sentence i just dont bother with making it perfect.
 
Nitelion94 said:
I am very sorry Rich Z. When I started this thread I was being serious. But after hearing a bunch of crap I figured I would say what i felt. Last time I checked i had a freedom of speach. Not that im saying anything about you. I get were your comeing from haveing to deal with spam and all that crap and I am very sorry about that.
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You do have a right to free speech and you are free to start your own forum and speak as much as you want, but that right does not apply on a private forum or any other private venue really. This is Rich's place and he legally and rightfully has 100% say about what goes on here. I have found Rich to be a nice and reasonable guy provided you are not the type to give him an attitude, so you may want to reconsider the attitude.

Second you did not start out being serious you started out with the double gun smiley. If you are not mature enough to man up and take responsibility for your behavior then you are not mature enough for a pistol or in my opinion any firearm. Calling the honest advice of other gun users a bunch of crap is yet another example of a lack of maturity and a lack of taking this seriously. I saw that yesterday you apologized, but yet here you are sassing Rich and so I wonder where you really sorry? Perhaps you missed my post yesterday but a good majority of the people here are passionate gun owners who love their hobby. If a bunch of pro gun people who feel passionately about this are saying to you that you need to do some preparation/growing up first, then it might be wise to listen to what they have to say. I say this not as an anti gun, hysterical, fearful, mom...but as a gun owning, gun using, mom who enjoys shooting with her kids (both of whom are much younger than you).

Why bother asking if when knowledgeable people give you advice you call it crap and disregard it. :shrugs:
 
Nitelion94 said:
im 16 and i want a pistol but my mom says i cant till im 20 or till i move out. i have 3 rifles and 2 shotguns but she says if i get a pistol ima shoot myself. im thinking about getin 2 and belike this similie:twoguns: lol
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Nitelion94 said:
I am very sorry Rich Z. When I started this thread I was being serious. But after hearing a bunch of crap I figured I would say what i felt. Last time I checked i had a freedom of speach. Not that im saying anything about you. I get were your comeing from haveing to deal with spam and all that crap and I am very sorry about that.
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What part was that serious again???

You asked a question but you don't like the answers. That's why maybe you can't have a hand gun. You're sixteen and your're to young. Sorry but your mom right!
 
your parents also might not let you have a pistol because it consealable. ever really think about that? maybe they think you might leave the house with it without them knowing.. and they feel uncomfortable with you having one at your discression and to take with you without them noticing whether it be to show off to your friends or to go and hurt someone you dont like... you may think now " oh im not like that" but maybe your mind will change when the time comes and your parents could see that out of you and thats why. because once your over 18 your not their responsibility anymore so what you do is your own fault.. as of now they have to look after you and if commit a crime with it or show your friends and accidentally pull the trigger and kill or hurt them then that comes back on them too, not just you. they will be looked at as bad parents and it will cost them money out of their pockets and im sure thats money you dont have.

no one is here to pick on you everyone is just telling you the best way to approach it because they themselves are gun owners and operators and have taken all safety precautions while doing it. and the best way to approach it is to mature your attitude and take classes learn everything you possibly can from classes and other pistol owners and operators and shoot with them a little take the gun apart and put it together and learn every single part inside and out. learn and know how it works and how to properly keep it locked up and in a case when not in use and how to keep it clean and ready for when you get to the range you dont hurt anyone because you didnt take the proper precautions into using your gun.

i had to do it in boot camp. and it isnt hard its actually fun. even though i learned on a bigger more powerful scale weapon, i still enjoyed learning about it and taking it apart and cleaning it.

just relax and time will takes it course. look into some classes. you will grow up soon enough dont be in such a rush. enjoy your younger years.
 
OK, like Popeye said, "I stands all I can stands and I can't stands no more".

Nite - Yes, you're too young for a pistol. Besides, other than target shooting or shooting people they really aren't good for much else. The simple fact is you're better off with a rifle or shotgun for critters.

All - A firearm is designed to do one thing; kill. Not wound, not maim, not scare into submission. Just kill. Any other result is just consequential.

As far as judging people; that's just what people do. Whatever you say, write, do, wear, etc., will be judged by other people. That's just the way it is.

As far as advice; people can take it or leave it. You can't make them heed it. Free will is alive and well.

As far as children owning firearms; I got my first one when I was 12. This is America and hunting is our heritage. Many areas of the country still fill the pot with substience hunting. Does that mean that every child needs a pistol or assault rifle? Of course not. But if they live on a farm or in the boonies there's nothing wrong with them having a shotgun or rifle and safety dictates that they have close adult supervision.

I apologize if I may of offended anyone in advance. As an American I value the freedom of speech and appreciate everyones opinion even if I don't agree with it. There is nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree. I'm just a cranky, old, crazy hilljack that has done 5 1/2 years in the military and 20 years as a cop that just wants to learn how to best care for my corn.

God bless those that choose to exercise their right to keep and bear arms. And since freedom isn't free; a great big thank you to those in the military that are defending our freedoms. God bless the IDF too, my prayers go out to you. Finally, a gargantuan thanks to Rich for hosting this great forum. Now, can we finally close this thread and talk about snakes? And maybe a kitten or two?
 
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