Caramel lavender?

[Onarian]

Does anyone have any pictures of what it looks like when these two genes mix? I know its been done, but I can't find any pictures.

 

[Lennycorn]

Does anyone have any pictures of what it looks like when these two genes mix? I know its been done, but I can't find any pictures.

If you find any let me know. love to seem them.

Let everyone else...I want I want!!

 

[Susan]

The best I can do is a hatchling amber lavender.

 

[Lennycorn]

What don't you have!! LOL

Lovely!!!

 

[Walter Smith]

The best I can do is a hatchling amber lavender.

Same here.....hatchling Amber Lavender. This is also a not so recent pic. I'll see about getting a updated pic.
for ya. This guy has a bit more yellow coloration now compared to this pic.

Walter
:crazy02:BOUT' CORNS !!

 

[El Jefe]

I've got one....now a picture....that is a different story. :sidestep:

 

[Onarian]

Thank you everyone. Amber lavender is exactly what I was looking for. Working on a project now that could make amber lavender stripes in a couple of years. Can't wait to see what they look like.

 

[bitsy]

I've got one....now a picture....that is a different story.

Dr Mohr - you tease!

 

[stephen]

Lamber

This also maybe a Caramel Lavender Motley...

 

[PJ@PJCReptiles]

I only have a Charcoal Lavender...:uhoh:

 

[airenlow]

This girl is technically a Caramel ph Hypo Amel...but is suspected to also be homo Lavender or Charcoal. :shrugs:

 

[Onarian]

This girl is technically a Caramel ph Hypo Amel...but is suspected to also be homo Lavender or Charcoal.

Whatever she is I love the look of her.

If you want to test her amel and charcoal we could test her with my Alcyon (caramel pewter het amel) in a couple of years.

 

[danielle]

I have a male opal butter pinstriped motley. He is quite cool looking and definitely a combination that is attractive

 

[Onarian]

I have a male opal butter pinstriped motley. He is quite cool looking and definitely a combination that is attractive

That's a tease if I've ever heard one! Can we see him?

 

[Rich Z]

Yeah, I had a project ongoing for years combining those genes, and it was a nightmare. I would get clutches hatching out that would have the standard Caramels, Ambers, Lavender, and Hypo Lavenders hatching out, as well as a few others that potentially were combinations of Caramel and Lavender. In one clutch I remember there were three different looking animals that I thought potentially were my target. Problem was, they were also different looking from each other as well, and there was not any way to really tell whether they were actually the combo I was looking for, or perhaps some new variation of the other genes being used for the combo. Or maybe the combo was just wildly variable in it's expression. Even raising them up and breeding them together didn't get me any closer to being able to positively identify what the heck all of them were. Yeah, I guess I could have allocated a couple of years and bred each one back to genuine Ambers or genuine Lavenders to be able to tell for certain. But that just seemed like a lot of effort for very little return in investment of time and resources. Sometimes the answers aren't really worth the effort that it takes to get them. In this instance, the pursuit of the answers would have cost me years of producing interesting looking animals instead. :shrugs:

Some of the adults did become pretty spectacular looking, so I'm sure I was successful, but for those people considering embarking on their own project, be prepared for some major head scratching when the eggs start hatching out. And by all means, try to make certain you don't have some wild cards (like Anerythrism) floating around in that gene pool as well, or you will be thinking that a Ghost that hatches out is your target result. Trust me, THAT can happen...

 

[danielle]

Here are a few pics though they are over a year old. I got this guy from Rich Z when he was retiring.

He's an absolute huge monster now though quite docile

 

[Rich Z]

Was that one of the Opal/Butter corns I had? That was another one of those head scratcher projects.....

 

[danielle]

He sure is Rich with a perfect Motley Pinstripe!!! He is now a grown man and the largest of all my corns by far. Most people assume he is a snow and I doubt I'll ever breed him to test his genetics... though I sometimes want to because I'm sure he has all kinds of crazy hets hidden in there coming from you

 

[Onarian]

Huh, really interesting snake Danielle. Thanks for posting him, is he the opal/butter or something else?

Rich. Thanks for the advice, maybe it was a big bite for my first project but I think I chose fairly good animals to start with. My sire is a hypo lavender het diffused stripe and the dam is amber het diffused stripe. So once I'm in to the F2 if everything goes as planned, which it likely won't, all of the hatchlings should be fairly distinctive. Crossing my fingers.

 

[Rich Z]

You merely have to accept the fact that this stuff is just not for people who want to have everything neat, orderly, and labelled. If you are the kind of person who loves challenges and surprises, then yeah, breeding corns is probably one of the most fun and exciting things you can do. After all, how many other things can you do where you may very well CREATE something that no human being on earth has ever seen before?

But if you expect everything to be neatly labelled, cut and dried, black and white, then it will drive you rip roaring insane in pretty short order. There is no better example of Mother Nature just thumbing her nose at our "rules" and efforts to categorize, identify, label, and cubby hole every living thing on this planet.

Just know what to expect out of this and enjoy the ride if that is what you are looking for.