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Sunkissed vs. Sunkist

flametail

flametail

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I have found out through research that Sunkissed is a recessive trait, but what is the genetics of a sunkist? They are produced by BHB and I like the way the look but on another forum they have suggested that it is just a normal. Opinions?

Here is the link to the sunkist.
sunkist
 
Great, now I have a craving for orange soda. :)
I've never heard of Sunkist as a cornsnake morph. :shrugs:
 
Its on bhb's site. Granted i'm brand new to corns but, to me, looks like a Miami Phase w/ orange spots.
 
The head looks sunkissed. Different breeders use different naming conventions for their websites--they also call anerys Black corn snakes, it is a naming thing, I think.
 
It might be a Sunkissed, but the head pattern doesn't look Sunkissed to me. It looks more like a normal, IMO.
 
I was going to say you drink sunkist and sunkissed was a morph, but it probably is a spelling error like oaktree, oakatee, oketee instead of okeetee.
 
This is a sunkissed corn....

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The other sunkist is eithier a beverage or an orange.. *shrugs*
 
When I first starting producing hypo okeetees, that is what I called them - hypo okeetees. I believe Rich came up with the idea of calling them sunkist (if I remember correctly). But I didn't want any confusion or issues with the drink, so I decided to call mine sunkissed instead. However, a few breeders went with sunkist, although I seldom ever see it is spelled that way recently.
 
BHB has it that way...I have emailed them a few times about it and they have not gotten back to me about it (weird because they never take this long to respond).
 
Sunkissed have been around a while - a lot of breeders may not remember where they heard it first, or why they decided to start using one form of the name instead of another.
 
I admit, that hatchling doesn't look the way I expect a sunkissed/sunkist to look - my understanding is that sunkissed head patterns are usually funky (very mottled) and the saddles are usually quite rounded. This baby seems to have the rounded saddles but not the head patterning. So I guess I could see it going either way? Strange they haven't gotten back to you on the genetics.
Here's a photo of my sunkissed girl when she was younger:
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She was actually just sold to me as an "okeetee", and I did not know about sunkissed at the time; I did notice the odd stuff with her patterning, but figured it was just from linebreeding until people pointed out that all the weird things I'd noticed were consistent with sunkissed :)

I will say the price is about right if it is a sunkissed - I know SMR sells ones that look similar to mine for $65
 
Yeah, that was me on the other forum who said it was a normal. To me the sunkist just looks like a normal. Maybe its some line bred trait that looks unique as an adult, but w/o any adult pictures i'm not ready to call it anything other than a normal.
 
kathylove said:
When I first starting producing hypo okeetees, that is what I called them - hypo okeetees. I believe Rich came up with the idea of calling them sunkist (if I remember correctly). But I didn't want any confusion or issues with the drink, so I decided to call mine sunkissed instead. However, a few breeders went with sunkist, although I seldom ever see it is spelled that way recently.
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Yes, this is kind of how it went.

What happened was that when I discovered that your "hypo okeetees" were not actually the same "hypo" as they hypomelanism we were all working with previously, I felt that it would introduce a LOT of confusion if we had identical names being applied to animals with incompatible genes. Since one of my "Hypo Okeetees" bred to one of your "Hypo Okeetees" would produce normal colored Okeetees, the chances for this to snowball into a severe problem were pretty realistic. Certainly breeding that line into Hypo Lavenders, Ambers (Hypo Caramels), Ghosts, Hypo Blood Reds, etc., would produce some very confusing results for the people doing that. So I was pondering this situation, thinking that the easiest thing to do at this early stage of the game was to just ask you about changing the name of this apparently new gene you had produced. Just so happens that I was drinking a can of "Sunkist" orange soda at the time, so that name seemed as fitting as any I could think of, so I suggested it as a possibility. I believe you were worried about a trademark infringement issue and chose to use the spelling of "Sunkissed" instead, but quite honestly since the "products" were so dissimilar, that never would have been an issue.

And quite honestly, when I write the name on my record cards, I will often use "Sunkist" simply because it is faster to write. :rolleyes:

As for BHB, I think perhaps Brian just heard the name and never saw it spelled out anywhere. It would be pretty difficult to tell the spelling just by hearing someone say that name unless you paid real close attention. As for him not replying to emails, bear in mind what time of year it is. Most of us are thick in the middle of prime breeding season with our animals, so that is going to have top priority for a while. Gotta make hay while the sun shines....
 
Rich Z said:
Yes, this is kind of how it went....So I was pondering this situation, thinking that the easiest thing to do at this early stage of the game was to just ask you about changing the name of this apparently new gene you had produced. Just so happens that I was drinking a can of "Sunkist" orange soda at the time, so that name seemed as fitting as any I could think of, so I suggested it as a possibility. I believe you were worried about a trademark infringement issue and chose to use the spelling of "Sunkissed" instead, but quite honestly since the "products" were so dissimilar, that never would have been an issue.
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A little gem for Rich's book!!!
 
Finally got an email back from BHB.

"It's a recessive morph that is in the oketee corn phase. They are not normal at all:) The hypos are even cooler! Let me know if you have any other questions. Talk soon, Brian"

Anyone care to explain?
 
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