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"Trundlefart" Replacement Name Suggestions

Tom did I stir the pot, with my comment on your striped snake? I like using TF when I am joking around but in all "professional" terms to me its either Motley, or Stripe. Since Tom pointed out that Motley is dominant over stripe might as well just say Motley with a Stripe parent somewhere down the line...

Buzz
 
Since Tom pointed out that Motley is dominant over stripe might as well just say Motley with a Stripe parent somewhere down the line...

Buzz

Well, the problem with that is that just sometimes the animals does show influence from both of the genes.

I sympathize with wanting to use the two gene names. I like motley/stripe but it can be confusing. Many people have trouble with the even more descriptive het motley/ het stripe. I think that is why TF was sticking around, one special name that means het motley/ het stripe without the confusion factor.

Puzzle is my favorite so far but once I check out how to pronounce pastiche it has a nice sound to it.
 
Ziggysmom, with all due respect, the stripe gene has ZERO influence on how the pattern of a motley/stripe looks. You can have a motley/motley, fully striped, head to tail, without the stripe gene. You can't judge a motley by its stripe.
 
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No, I'm to blame...

Okay, well no offense but it was being used in jest in that thread. Next time I will put quotes around my LOL. Or use a laughing smile. :laugh:

I was simple using the term that the OP of the thread uses all the time. I don't think the "professional" comment in that thread was called for. We have never used that term in an ad or to describe any of our snakes. I did take offense to the comment.
 
Okay, well no offense but it was being used in jest in that thread. Next time I will put quotes around my LOL. Or use a laughing smile. :laugh:

I was simple using the term that the OP of the thread uses all the time. I don't think the "professional" comment in that thread was called for. We have never used that term in an ad or to describe any of our snakes. I did take offense to the comment.

People ARE using the term in for sale ads. I'm sorry, but to me, it sounds stupid.
 
I like the idea of quilt. Definitely do NOT like the idea of calling them motley/stripes because too many people see a pinstripe motley and assume that the snake must have a stripe gene to make the pattern.
 
Trundlefart!

Motley het stripe is inaccurate and everyone who understands the 2 genes knows it. It is motley in phenotype, yes, but NOT IN GENOTYPE.

Give me something accurate to work with.
 
Hmmm.......


"Problem Child"

Thats Accurate? right?

Or Maybe...

T R O U B L E

Oooo OOoooo!!!

"Tribble"
 
People ARE using the term in for sale ads. I'm sorry, but to me, it sounds stupid.

Did I personally use the term in a sale ad? I have never and will never use that term in one of our ads, but to say it in a photo gallery pic and in jest is just fine in my professional opinion.

We may come up with a cool name, but how many breeders are actually going to use it. This forum only scratches the surface of all the corn snake breeders in the US and our fellow cohorts over seas. If you really want to know what is in your snake ask the breeder, and buy from experienced breeders that have done the homework and know the genes that they are using. Ask ask ask....

Buzz
 
Ziggysmom, with all due respect, the stripe gene has ZERO influence on how the pattern of a motley/stripe looks. You can have a motley/motley, fully striped, head to tail, without the steipe gene. You can't judge a motley by its stripe.

No offence Nanci.

BUT with all due respect, I think just sometimes the stripe gene shows in a genetically het motley het stripe animal.

There are beautiful animals that have a stripe look, (phenotype), and are genetically homo motley. One way these have been labeled is pinstripe motley.

Zen, I feel is a pretty good example of a pinstripe motley. If I had to guess, I would say "he" is homo motley, but since this is one of my few Petco snakes I don't have anyone to ask about the genetics.
 
I will try this agian after resizing the picture.

Zen.
 

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Marmalade is het motley het stripe.

The central most part of the dorsal pattern on Marmalade is part dot/ circle markings and part stripe markings. That part of his pattern is standard motley variability. The sort of marks that many homo motley snakes have.

Just towards the lateral of the pattern from those blatant makings there is a tiny thin white stripe on each side that is fairly consistent down the whole snake. I have never seen a picture of a snake that was labeled as known to be homo motley that has the extra tiny thin stripes in the pattern. Only rarely do these stripes show up in pictures of snakes known to be het motley /het stripe. A fair number of homo stripe snakes have thin little stripes in this position in their pattern.

edited to clean up a typo of mine.
 

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And you can prove this is from the stripe gene?

You have to admit that the lower dorsal striping is terribly wide for an animal without a stripe gene. Still, we know pinstriping is possible without the stripe gene at all, so it's anyone's guess until breeding proves out.
 
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